Trump tax returns leaked. For realz.

I see 4 lights.

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Ross has said that when they roasted Trump the only topic that was specifically off limits was Trump’s money :moneybag:

https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1310556203748032512?s=20

https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1310556814870708224?s=20

https://twitter.com/adamdavidson/status/1310557474374778881?s=20

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My take about the guy from forbes who wrote the recent book is that he was being wayyy overgenerous about Trump’s worth. Post-covid, post-NYT, and post brand and properties being shit, Trump will have to scramble hard to avoid bankruptcy if he loses.

Lol, his branding won’t be completely dead, but $30m/yr tops.

They’ll forgot Trump like he was Bush Jr. Forbes idiots probably believe his “brand” is worth $500M.

“I’m Donald Trump, IRS got your nuts in a vice and you need to settle? We can help resolve your case for pennies on the dollar.”

TBF, Putin might pay him $40M is he agrees to dress up like Uncle Sam and be humiliated on Russian TV.

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His base would literally lap up his shit zealously, and no, we don’t have to worry too much about how our messages resonate with them. They’ll do anything, including eating shit, to spin anything as GOOD NEWS…FOR DONALD TRUMP. Not everyone who voted for Trump in 2016 is irredeemable, and not everyone who voted for Barack Obama showed up to the polls then, either. That a given story doesn’t PWN THE TRUMPKINS as much as you might hope doesn’t mean that it doesn’t help.

Also, the tax story doesn’t have to be just one thing. It can be many things to different people. Telling too many stories is bad, but telling a few different simple ones lets people choose their own adventure.

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On this issue, I truly don’t care if it’s true or not. If half the country thinks it’s true, that will drive Trump insane.

He might even release much more detailed financial records just to prove he’s not broke.

This is true, too. Telling stories that infuriate Trump and Trump alone is also good, even if it doesn’t affect his base.

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Their valuation is based on operating income of his ventures, based on SEC filings. None of it is his sayso. The article doesn’t go into most of the valuations in detail because it’s boring, but there’s a zillion-post Twitter thread here that gets into the weeds. There is no evidence whatsoever that he’s broke other than that that’s what people ITT would like to believe.

Why would anyone think it’s true? Other than people ITT who want to believe it. I mean I want to believe it, badly, and I still don’t. How are you going to convince anyone who doesn’t want to believe it?

Lol look at this broke bitch

It was literally on the local news tonight in LA: “Is Trump broke?”

You’re not going to convince anyone who doesn’t want to believe it. Half the country wants to believe it. It will drive Trump nuts. I’m good with that.

Not a chance.

Tim Miller, the former Jeb Bush aide who now runs the Republican Voters Against Trump PAC, talked with me about stop-Trump work he did for Our Principles PAC during the 2016 primary and how poorly messages about Trump being bad at business tested in polling.

“It just didn’t land at all,” he said, describing the response from poll respondents. “As far as they’re concerned, he’s a rich guy. He lives the lifestyle of a rich person. Rappers rap about how he’s rich, his whole brand is that he’s rich. So this idea that he’s actually broke or that he’s actually a bad businessman just didn’t sell with anybody.”

It’s an absurd message to try to sell about him and has the additional disadvantage of not being true. He has gold-plated toilets and a trophy wife and plays golf on his own golf courses and has buildings with his name on them. I have no idea how you think you’re selling “Actually this guy who looks really rich is actually broke”.

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You mean like how there isn’t a chance he would get up on stage in front of 1000s of people and prove he can drink water with one hand?

The man is impossibly vain and profoundly stupid.

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Broke or criminal? Either way, 35 more days.

Your BFFs at Forbes seem to be playing it both ways.

Equally as troubling are the questions about the President’s financial future. With massive debts coming due, and the prospect of a substantial federal tax bill looming, Trump may once again be facing financial bankruptcy. If Trump should win the reelection in November, some of his major bills will come due while he is in office, also raising the prospect of a financially beleaguered President distracted by his own potentially ruinous finances.

You know Forbes is just a click mill now right?

Here’s a picture of one of Mike Tyson’s houses.

I doubt very much whether Trump’s tax returns give you a full picture of his debts.

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“Are Trump’s debts a national security concern?” vs. “Is Trump broke?” is a meaningless distinction for 99.9% of the public.

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That article is content-free, it doesn’t even attempt to value Trump. Dispute the numbers or GTFO. Like I said, this is not actually close. You can decrease his asset valuation by 50% and increase his debt valuation by 50% and he’s still in the black.

Suzzer’s argument is that what matters is whether you can sell the idea that he’s broke, which is why I was arguing in the realm of perception. Trump doesn’t look broke and nor does he seem to actually be broke. It’s therefore confusing to me why anyone could think they can sell the public on the idea that he is broke.

Your evidence that this is a workable line of attack is that House Dems are running with it?

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Stop trying to apply logical consistency to this imo. Just go with the Republican method for once.

Just like how democrats can be bumbling fools and Bilderberg illuminati at the same time - Trump can be a billionaire not paying enough taxes - and a broke failed businessman at the same time.

Just let it happen.

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