Travel Addicts/Advice Thread

Exactly 2 months into a 6+ month stretch in Europe and W. Asia. Here are my thoughts on each city visited so far. My criteria might be a little different from conventional wisdom. I rate pleasing architecture and high walkability/public transport extremely highly. I don’t drink all that much and not too much of a foody, although I appreciate when I can find some low/mid range restaurants with solid food, so nightlife is a non-factor. I also like larger cities with a very active vibe that have tons of different areas to go to and things to do.

Madrid (7 days) - 9/10
I had never been before and was pleasantly surprised. The opinion on here seems to be generally low, but Madrid to me is a great city. Great architecture, many walkable and pleasing neighborhoods, and the city feels lively and chaotic. I’m more of a night person and Madrid is packed w/people even at like 11:30 on a Wednesday night and just feels alive.

Sevilla (7 days) - 8/10
Another really solid city. It scores lower than Madrid b/c the city just feels way smaller, and I think I’d get bored with a longer stay. The city was also fairly dead at night mid-week. But very walkable and gorgeous, with a few really cool areas. Andalucia in general is great, Granada is just epic for a smaller city and Alhambra is a must see. Córdoba also great and Málaga is pleasing/walkable although a bit small in scope and not much variety.

Paris (1 month) - 9.5/10
Previously, I’d been to 9 Euro countries I think, having heavily explored France, but only seen 1-3 cities in the other countries. Paris and Barcelona were my 1A and 1B then, and still are now. As a big fan of history and architecture, there are few better places. Every corner seems like it has some cool historical anecdote. I docked slightly b/c the city can be a bit samesy due to Haussmann. Some see it as a plus, but I kinda prefer a bit of variety.

Lyon (1 week) - 7.5/10
I’d previously lived here and loved it, but I think some of the magic has worn off. Still a great place to visit, and the setting is excellent with the 2 rivers coming together, hills overlooking the city, and a decent taste of Paris, at a discount, but I think now I’d slightly favor Sevilla for cities in this size category.

Barcelona (1 month) - 9.55/10
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I think I prefer Barcelona to Paris. I’ve been getting more into architecture lately and the Barcelona modernisme (art nouveau) stuff for me is the nuts. I love the imagination and creativity and whereas Paris is loaded with great architecture, the modernisme stuff is truly one of a kind. On top of that, Barcelona has so much on offer with coastline, beaches, and great weather. It also has the most active vibe, you’ll see people working out, running, biking in groups, more than I’ve seen in the other cities combined.

I did several day trips, but probably not fair to rate cities based on such a short time: Toledo, Córdoba, Granada, Málaga (3 days) Versailles, and Rouen were the other cities.

That’s it so far. I’ll update as I go along. I’d already seen the latter 3 cities, but from here on out, it will be all brand new cities to me.

Athens (1 week)
Istanbul (1 month)
Tbilisi (1 month)

From there I probably decide if I want to do an extended stay (6-12 months) in either Tbilisi or Istanbul, assuming one of them catches my girlfriend and I’s eye. From there we’ll do some hopping around nearby cities.

I’m super intrigued to see Istanbul. Based on my love of history, architecture, and waterfront settings, I think it could be a contender for my favorite city, we’ll see.

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I’ll be in Istanbul this April for 4 days. Wonder what things will be like then given that it’ll be Ramadan. From there, I’ll decide whether or not to spend more time in Turkey this summer.

But before that, I’ll spend a week in Lombardy for spring break. Gonna base myself first in Milan and then Como to see the lake district.

I’ll probably just miss you in Istanbul since we’re leaving in early April, but strong chance we return there in June/July for a long stay. I’d be down to explore Turkey a bit with you if we happen to coincide. Seems like there’s a long list of cool places to see there.

Anyone ever purchase a refundable flight when you aren’t 100% sure you’ll use the ticket?

Refundable is $650 more than the non-refundable ticket for the same flight. But the flight isn’t until late July, and I have a feeling if I wait until I’m sure I’m going, the difference will be more than $650.

Delta says “fee will apply” if you cancel, but doesn’t tell you what that fee is. If it’s $500 that kind of defeats the purpose.

If it’s truly labeled as refundable, the fee statement might just be legal jargon that found its way into there.

If you can live with getting a credit instead of getting your cash back, a lot of airlines have eliminated cancellation fees for the lower fare classes (not the very lowest, Basic, on Delta, but I don’t think Main has a cancelation fee). So you can cancel that and have the credit to use at a future date (typically one year from when you bought it, although Delta has been extending certificate expirations for significant periods of time.)

Oh yeah, I’m fine with a credit as I’ll use it eventually. I didn’t think of that.

In that case, I would just buy Main Cabin and cancel for the credit if you end up not using the ticket (assuming trip originated in North America)

https://www.delta.com/us/en/change-cancel/cancel-flight

No Cancellation Fee

Cancellation fees are not applicable for the following tickets:

  • Delta tickets Main Cabin and above for travel within the U.S., Puerto Rico and USVI purchased after August 31, 2020
  • Delta tickets Main Cabin and above for travel originating from North America to anywhere in the world (including flights operated by joint venture and codeshare partners) purchased after December 9, 2020
  • Delta tickets Main Cabin and above for travel between the Caribbean and the U.S. or Mexico
  • Basic Economy tickets are excluded

I’m not an expert, but you can definitely do it from the USA side only - I would imagine passport-less folks do it all the time. Great views of Horseshoe Falls from the NY state park, and I think you can do Maid of the Mist too. The town on the USA is quieter with maybe not as many entertainment/dining options, but if only there a couple nights, may not be a huge deal.

As long as it’s not a bear logistically, I’d try to get to the Canadian side.

iirc you have to be on the Canadian side to go down the tunnels and behind the falls. That’s the part I enjoyed the most as a kid.

Definitely do the Canadian side. No idea about the current covid rules. Consider doing some icewine tasting at some spots in the area.

you can go down the elevator from the island, which is on US side. not sure about tunnels

Didn’t someone here go to Turks and Caicos a few months back?

I did last month. What’s up?

Where did you stay? Wife wants to plan a Caribbean trip for her birthday. T&C looked excellent for just lounging around the beach for a few days. You enjoy yourself?

I found these but they are on the opposite side of the island of grace bay.

I absolutely love T&C. It’s perfect for a lazy few days on the beach. Been there three times now and there will be more. Have always stayed on Grace Bay, and while there are other good options (like Long Bay Beach), and on a future trip we may choose them (or one of the other islands), I would recommended sticking to Grace Bay for a first trip. It’s one of the best beaches in the world, it won’t feel overly crowded, and you’ll be close (walking distance probably) to a lot of restaurant/cafe options.

Long Bay Beach is pretty isolated, the beach isn’t as deep, and the sand not as luxurious. It’s fun to head out there for part of a day (especially if it’s windy and the kite-surfers are out, or you want to do a lesson yourself). I actually went for a walk on LBB this last trip when Mrs. JordanIB was diving, and it was quite rocky/shelly. Another favorite of mine is Taylor Bay Beach for sunset. Another beach that lacks amenities or much near it, so just get there an hour or so before sunset, bring a bottle of wine or some beers as you see fit, and enjoy the view. You may literally have the entire beach to yourself. It’s also unique in that you can walk out about a quarter mile until the water gets above knee/waist deep.

I will PM you.

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Milan is basically an Italian interpretation of NYC.

This is based on being here for 8 hours so far


This is purely anecdotal, but I believe climate plays a huge role in the friendliness of people towards strangers. The friendliest interactions I’ve had with strangers have been in countries that have a reputation for warm weather (Spain, Italy, Greece etc).

#drunkthoughts

Global warming will make the world a friendlier place.

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What about those Scandis? Not friendly?

I’ve never met any in their native habitat, but all the ones I’ve met here seem nicer than the average person. Maybe it’s the weather?

Only deeply unfriendly people I ran into were Danes and Swiss. Especially the Swiss.

This view is from a position of privilege, but most people I’ve interacted with are nice. It’s what makes negative experiences stand out so much more than positive. I try to remember the good because ime those people are the norm not the exception.

Scotland has shit weather but Glasweigans were so openly friendly towards me that it actually scared me. So I guess that’s an exception.

I wouldn’t call Scandis unfriendly, but doing something like chatting up a stranger seems to be a very un-scandinavian thing to do.