The Television Streaming Thread: Part II - Hot Takes, Jags Fans, and Bert

Arisu’s name is written in katakana, which means it’s explicitly not a Japanese name. It’s a weird-ass name for a guy but not really weird by manga standards.

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What about the real Arisus (i.e. women) that Ikioi has run into? Do they spell their name like that or is it something else?

Turns out the RT score has gone down again, supposedly because of a bunch of post re-release reviews. Wish I could easily find the historical scores.

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Having said that, I thought Yoda Parkour was both awesome to see and yet just as stupid as the sand talk.

If your name was “Alice” and you emigrated to Japan, then taking the name “アリス” would make perfect sense. Why a native Japanese boy would have that name is a mystery. I don’t think it’s supposed to make sense.

Yeah, I get all that. I think Ikioi was saying that there are Japanese people who name their daughters Arisu. I was wondering if it’s the same spelling as what was on the poster.

:partying_face::partying_face::partying_face:

Getting quite nerdy in here. If any mod still exists please feel free to quarantine this “was the Phantom Menace terrible or just pretty bad” debate to its own thread lol

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If there’s a native Japanese name “Arisu,” it would be written quite differently than what’s on the poster.

Edit: according to Google, “有栖” is a rare but actual woman’s name that would be pronounced “Arisu.”

OK, sounds like one for @Ikioi. I guess we’ll need to wait until he wakes up.

There’s a lot about The Phantom Menace that is bad, but those bad things (most of the stuff with Gungans, Anakin and Padme’s “flirting”, Watto, the Trade Federation) are bad in a way that is very strange. The movie isn’t embarrassed by how weird it is, mostly because George Lucas clearly created it in a crucible totally free of what he thought people wanted.

You couldn’t like everything about the movie—that was intellectually impossible—but to deny the whole thing wasn’t emotionally effecting would also be dishonest.

With The Phantom Menace, Lucas made his version of Dune; a bizarre and ruminative sci-fi space epic that was also, somehow, a Star Wars movie. With Attack of the Clones, you can see him giving people more of what he believed they wanted: a faux-Boba Fett, Yoda fighting with a lightsaber, stormtroopers who are really clones. But none of that pandering exists yet with The Phantom Menace. It stands apart and alone as one of the most successful movies that is also supposedly a failure.

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Kind of want to watch the phantom menace now. I have no idea if I saw it back when it was released but if I did I remember nothing. Not a Stars Wars guy at all though.

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The main thing I remember from my first watch of The Phantom Menace was that midiclorians was stupid and that Anakin was way too young in the film especailly when they started talking about him being too old to be trained. Also I think I might be the only one who wasn’t a fan of the darth maul duel. To me it felt so out of place.

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I think it’s impossible to overstate how big the hype was for TPM when it came out. People were literally camping out overnight for tickets and opening day/night was an event nationwide pretty much. I saw it twice the first day and have never even considered doing that before or since with any other movie.

No movie can live up to that.

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The prequels were much more enjoyable when I watched them with my kids because they didn’t care about all the stuff that adult fanboys hated. They just liked watching Star Wars.

Also, Jar Jar wasn’t nearly as bad on rewatch as I thought he was, based on the years of people hating him.

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My son is rapidly approaching StarWars age and my immer nerd is debating 456123789 or 123456789?

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Almost certainly 456123789

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The critics ratings are 51% for TPM and 65% for AotC, those are mostly contemporaneous scores. Audience scores are similarly low. I never met anyone at the time who thought it was anything other than bad. Possible we have an age difference. I was 19 when it was released.

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789 did not exist when my kids were little, but I went 123456.

Being with my son at the “No, I am your father” reveal was absolutely incredible. His head asploded.

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I read a compelling argument for 45 123 6 789. It’s a bit unorthodox, but I think it makes sense. It only works if you binge them, imo. If you’re going to space it out over more than a couple of months, then order of release is the way to go.

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I like the basic concept behind Machete Order where you watch the original trilogy with the prequel inserted after Empire as a flashback to explain how Anakin became Darth Vader after the fatherhood reveal.

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