The Presidency of Donald J. Trump, Episode VI: No Witnesses, One Defector, No Checks or Balances

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I’m not going to watch it but apparently in that video Trump says it’s OK to go to work with coronavirus.

So he is okay if someone infected comes to work and sneezes on him?

I sure am.

Here’s the clip:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1235411751950221312

He says he thinks the real death rate is a fraction of one percent, mentions people going to work with it and recovering fine and doesn’t say that’s a bad thing to do.

When people start dying in big numbers the Democrats should impeach him for this. I have a feeling all the public that doesn’t give a shit about Russia or Ukraine cares about this.

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You can’t impeach someone for saying dumb and irresponsible stuff lol, if you could he’d have been impeached 800 times already.

They may be able to make pretty effective attack ads about it come election time though, if coronavirus gets out of control. But he’s probably correct that the real death rate is under 1%.

Maybe, not feeling the cigars though. And a little worried about COVID-19 I guess. Scotch or other hard A probably kills the virus so what the hell.

I feel like I’ve seen a few cask strength variants around 60% but honestly I’d add a little water to those.

I’d be alright with just a drink. Maybe muckleshoot or EQC?

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:thinking: :thinking: :thinking: Source?

The Imperial College research is linked in that article:

Using estimates of underlying infection prevalence in Wuhan at the end of January derived from testing of passengers on repatriation flights to Japan and Germany, we adjusted the estimates of CFR from either the early epidemic in Hubei Province, or from cases reported outside mainland China, to obtain estimates of the overall CFR in all infections (asymptomatic or symptomatic) of approximately 1% (95% confidence interval 0.5%-4%).

I haven’t read the research in detail but imo the upper end of that is unlikely as there are probably a bunch of asymptomatic cases* and the case numbers are clearly being deliberately underreported in many cases (Iran is an absolute lock for this) so I’d say it’s more likely in the lower end of that confidence interval. Note that the 0.5-1% and 1-4% ranges are, if we take that study at face value, equiprobable (because the final estimate is in the middle of the distribution).

  • I know this is taken into account in the research, but underreporting of cases leads to underestimation of this number

I consider reckless endangerment of the American public by spouting off lies about a public health crisis to be a high crime or misdemeanor.

Kind of dark Politico headline.

The face that launched a thousand coronavirus infections.
https://twitter.com/RiegerReport/status/1235248533969739778?s=19

We still need a new thread. It’s an opportunity available to anybody who wants to seize it.

  1. Start thread
  2. PM goofyballer
  3. Bask in the glory

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Chris V

2% of a million people and 1% of 2 million people are the same number.

What we need to worry about are two things— number of deaths and number of hospitalizations. Those are both the numerators in the equation.

If we undercount infections it doesn’t matter to any significance. Does 10 vs 20 million dead worldwide make it any less a tragedy?

However the real problem is that there are likely deaths and hospitalizations that are being undercounted.

And they have already sequenced 5 different genomes in Washington state alone. Remember that the first round of 1918 flu was mild. May or may not happen again but can’t be surprised if it follows a similar path. Life evolves. Viral life faster than anything on earth.

There is no public health strategy here except to prepare for the worst. To do anything else is dereliction of duty. Trumpian if you will. If the whole thing ends up milder then so be it.

Nursing homes will be decimated. I had a Trumper acquitance point out it was just speeding up death for the weak and old. Let’s see how folks feel when grandma dies or the young people in their lives with compromised respiratory lives are cut short.

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What you say the virus will keep evolving, if a person is infected with let’s call it Coronavirus Version 1.0 and survives it, is that like having been vaccinated and now they have the antibodies to protect them from Coronavirus Version 5.0?

Or are we all going to keep getting infected with each increasingly strong version of the Coronavirus and have to keep surviving them?