Trump is popular in Israel obviously. Why wouldn’t he be. I wonder how that whole Fuck Bibi line of his gonna play out though.
@Chippa58 i wouldn’t bring up the murder of 6 million people as a weapon in a discussion. Even if it really feels like a winner, i suggest you avoid it. it’s easy to argue why voting for Trump is wrong regardless of your religion.
Because he wouldn’t condemn neo-nazis? The whole “Good people on both sides…” thing.
The right wing in Israel doesn’t give a fuck about incel neo nazis in the US. They got nukes.
And White Nationalists kinda have a reputation for being anti-Semitic. And they love Trump. How do they justify liking the same guy that the racists like?
Nevertheless, I don’t see how your average Israeli could see a bunch of Aryan looking bros with torches chanting about Jews “not replacing us” followed by Trump saying there are some good people there and the Israeli thinking, “That Trump guy is just the best”.
Is this a serious discussion?
If so then the average right wing in Israel isn’t watching local US news. They know Trump hates Iran. Trump hates Muslims. They know Trump loves Israel. They know Trump’s daughter is Jewish. That is the dream US president.
As I wrote, the recent comments Trump made about Bibi and Abbas are way more interesting and potentially damaging to his reputation in Israel. I didn’t follow israeli rwnj twittersphere to see how it played out.
Sure, but it’s not like you needed local news for this. It was a massive national story. No Israeli news outlet ran with it?
I guess if you’re saying that all the stuff that they would view negatively just never made it to Israel, that would explain it, but it a somewhat surprising explanation.
why did you cut that part of my entire explanation? annoying conversation, i’ll bow out.
Because I agreed with all of that stuff. Sure they know all of those positive things (from their perspective), but it would seem to me that this one big negative thing would offset a lot of that.
but you know for a fact it didn’t, so the premise of the conversation is for you to try and understand why something happened, not to push back as to why it shouldn’t.
Yes. And at this point I have accepted your explanation and said that I am surprised by it. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe it.
I only think they it shouldn’t if they really knew that, which it sounds like you’re saying they didn’t. If they didn’t know, then the “should” part is irrelevant. I guess you also could have said they knew but it didn’t bother them. That would have been surprising too, but for different reasons. And if that were the case, the “shouldn’t” part is more relevant.
Ugh. My explanation wasn’t that this didn’t make the news here. It’s that it doesn’t interest people in Israel that much. It’s some march in a university in Virginia that the left wing mass media trying to spin to make it a big deal. It’s not like the nearly non-existent Israeli left-wing likes trump. These are right-wingers who aren’t going out of their way to dislike their dream american president.
They don’t see the shallowness of Trump at all? If just congratulating Trump’s opponent prompts an FU, doesn’t it make all of Trump’s positions seem a little shaky?
It’s not the march that was the big deal. Obviously Israelis couldn’t give a fuck about that. It is what Trump said about those marching bigots that I would have (before the fact) assumed was a big deal (or at least a medium deal) even to right wing Israelis.
So are you saying Trump’s comments about the those people was just ignored? Not taken seriously? Taken seriously, but outweighed all the stuff they like about Trump. I realize we’re splitting hairs here, but I’m curious.
Yeah, this is an anecdotal results should not be over-interpreted situation. American Jews are still the heaviest democratic leaning major religious group in America
2 points more than Muslims even.
Right wingers just care that Trump is owning the libs, it doesn’t matter if he’s a true believer or not.
Buddhists have Jews beat. Are they not ‘major’? According to this there are about 3.5 million of them which is not that much different from Muslims.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/buddhist-countries
Even Jews would only have them outnumbered by a factor of ~2.
Yeah, I missed Buddhists. Point still stands though, it’s an overwhelmingly democratic group.
Since we’re on the topic of Jews, how is that FrankenGovernment in Israel going?
The opposition is copying the us senate code of conduct. Like bringing up law proposal they objected to before because they know part of the frankengov has to vote yes against the coalition or oppose against their previous activity.
Going to impressively cynical point such as prompting a law to recognize the Armenian genocide, which they blocked endless times before.
tbh im surprised its still holding. Bibi will get by far the most votes if the election is tomorrow