Because it’s a term of art employed by right-wing conspiracy morons? This isn’t complicated.
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This, obviously. Engage in war crimes and the President will pardon you.
Also, the public has plenty of animosity towards Snowden. In 2015, 64% of Americans had a negative opinion of him. I’d be surprised if his approval rating was much above 50% in this forum.
Ok I’ll concede to using a different term even though I don’t agree with the logic that anything Trump does or says must by definition be bad and we must therefore condemn it. Maybe the mods can change the title of OP to “Security State” or some other preferred term. Although, it seems like typical liberal nonsense to get so hung up on words. Even though I’m sure there are some “very fine” people (such as Snowden) who work in these agencies or as contractors, there’s no denying that some very nefarious shit takes place in the bowels of our government agencies. Call it what you want I guess
What they did to Manning and are trying to do with Snowden and Assange after they simply exposed the unlawfulness of their programs is unconscionable imo and I’m fine with the term deep state, but I’ll use something else for the sake of moving conversation along. In the meantime…
Anyone disagree that all charges should be immediately dropped against Snowden now?
What do you expect people to think after their messiah first Black president Obama posing as a progressive, called him a traitor to his country and publicly wanted him brought back to the US and tried for treason while continuing and even escalating many of the operations (I’m thinking drone strikes) of his predecessor?
Snowden should have been given a parade from day 1.
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btw, Snowden got the russian citizenship today. wouldn’t it be hilarious if he was mobilized as well?
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No, it wouldn’t be.
3 part story:
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1574433877002784770?t=XYoX44M_bnlkseY7ba2nbA&s=19
https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1574437251987263490?t=BB9KA4kPq9f4wPNIDEjTFA&s=19
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1574458606313156608?t=fRSa9t4z2eZqGBDk877yKw&s=19
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i think i would prefer american prison to russian prison or the russian army.
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I’m sure I’d prefer the US did not prosecute whistleblowers against the NSA.
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i would prefer that too, but i am not about to live under a far worse regime to continue to throw tweets about the NSA.
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Then what would you have him in an American prison for?
You don’t know what you’d do when facing a possible life or maybe even death sentence. (That said, I don’t blame Snowden a bit. Fuck Russia and the USA, but live wherever you can.)
ianal, and i don’t know why he would be facing the death penalty. wiki says US DoJ specifically said he wouldn’t face the death penalty. i am not a whistleblower either, and i cannot tell you why going public about the government lying has to be done by revealing hundreds of thousands of documents, including shared foreign intelligence. tehre are probably charges Snowden should feel privileged to accept, and several he should defy and beat in court. being an icon for the freedom of the press, he is check notes receiving living accomodations and protection of the kremlin, and the fsb.
do you know what you’d do when facing a likely violent death like a mobiiization order from teh drunk commandant of an outpost in Podunk, Buryatia?
If I could and if my family would be ok, I would evade the draft of any state/nation period.
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Obama handed the opportunity for Putin to shame the US here and that’s what happened.
putin invaded anotehr country less than a year later?
Having a kid changes the equation in my subjective opinion and just learned via Google that Snowden had a kid in 2020. Why he had a kid in such fucked up circumstances is another question but it is what it is. As played, he gets to throw morality into the wind and post like dumbfuck stooge as vast majority of people would do in his situation.
And Snowden should go to prison because of that?
I don’t know how his tweets are relevant to whether or not he should be in an American prison.
Should trump go to prison?