As part of my getting into nutrition and doing a fair bit of research over the last 6 months, I certainly think it’s good to eat “clean,” especially whole fruits, veggies, meat, fewer carbs. These food provide a lot of satiety for the calories. They also tend to be expensive, a bit inconvenient, non microwaveable, and spoil before long.
It’s funny because weightlifting “science bro” YouTubers often literally pull up and discuss PDFs of the latest research on the topic at issue (eg, jeff nippard, Dr. Mike, and various others). When I look up nutrition stuff it’s a lot of keto, ex-keto, whole food, salad moms, etc. Many complain about “Ulta-processed food”, seed oils, etc. (I haven’t gone in deep enough to run into the “red dye” people, but I generally stick to MDs and PhDs.) A consistent thing I do see is advice to avoid too much sugar and don’t eat too many carbs–most “ultraprocessed” stuff is mainly high in carbs, often with sugar or corn syrup added. However, if you’re meeting your protein and calorie targets, I think it’s basically all fine. There’s a story about a nutrition professor who ate mainly Twinkies for a month while monitoring his calories and he did fine.
A friend of mine that I play soccer with is head of the health dept at a local college. He says - despite it being his whole career - at the end of the day it’s not rocket science. Just eat healthy (fresh veg & fruit/Mediterranean style) & get some exercise. Genetics causes problems when you get older.
Yeah, sorry Alex, but adhd medication can be an absolute game changer.
ANECDOTE ALERT!
We tried everything for my son prior to medication. More time outside, sports, insane amounts of special treatments from his schools including alterations of schedule and food intake and on and on and on, and nothing worked. He just couldnt pay attention to anything in particular and would either lash out at the people around him or do everything to distract everyone else.
We finally put him on ritalin… and it didnt work. And we could have given up then. But we tried again with Strattera, and it was like a light switch. By continuing the modifications and medication and focusing on good nutrition as well, he eventually was able to come off the medication. He still struggles at times but i cant imagine where he would have been today without it.
So no, being told to “just touch grass” isnt a solution for some. Its just as victim blamey and stupid as telling an overweight person to “just eat less.”
So on the one hand we have “science bro” YouTubers, who clearly look good and feel good, and are promoting a lifestyle of whole foods, sunshine, exercise, and avoiding processed foods - for a wide variety of reasons that are “unconfirmed” by “science.”
And on the other hand we have the American population who are fat, lonely, depressed, angry and violent, and over-prescribed medication based on a 10x rise in diagnoses over the last 50 years, all approved under the guidance of the FDA.
Man I didn’t realize how much people in this forum were Pharma-pilled.
It’s more like, Pharma companies have exactly one weird trick which is to make you take their pills for the rest of your life that have a variety of nasty side-effects, and are often backed by studies that are just as questionable as the science bro PDFs, let alone not sufficiently accounting for potential long-term issues.
Ok, I’m not disputing the role that medication can play. You’re exactly the person who I’m not talking about, someone who tried a bunch of other options and only went to medication as a last resort. Most people aren’t doing that.
Methylphenidate has been generic since the 1960s with extended release versions going generic in 2012. Ain’t nobody getting shit for payment for prescribing ritalin and it’s moronic to suggest that’s the reason when, again, evidence is overwhelming that it’s supremely effective.
You really think these YouTubers are honest? Pretty much every health YouTuber is supplementing with at least TRT, if not a lot more drugs. Their entire income is based on looking amazingly fit, while pretending to be healthy.
Also, they may claim that they “feel good” and maybe many of them do, but even if they feel like shit, they have to project that they are in amazing health so that people keep subscribed and buy the crap they are shilling.
I’m not arguing one is more honest than the other. I’m just saying both can have valuable sources of information and that you shouldn’t just rely on the FDA to tell you what to eat.
To me this is like saying books are worthless because most books are bad. There are many professors and scientists who discuss relevant research on youtube or give lectures to relevant experts. It’s become an impressive platform for all kinds of information (while being 90% shit). Sure, read FDA publications, but no one who isn’t a professional does that.
YouTube is valuable only if you’re capable of being informed enough to figure out what’s bullshit and what isn’t. Very few people can do that at all, much less well.
That means one thing if it’s game of thrones breakdowns, another if it’s informing your opinion on scientific subjects
Well no youtuber ever took something that was only used as engine lubricant until the 1970s, rebranded it as Heart Healthy because it was cheap and easy to produce, and placed it in every cooking shelf and packaged product sold to the general public.
Completely unrelated and purely coincidental chart:
If you want to actually talk about what you’re talking about lmk, because good lord I don’t care enough to dive into the nutrition pseudoscientific hellhole like I did with Covid, where I could pick out which YouTuber Churchill was using on the dl based on a screenshot alone
