Yeah I think most people think the ongoing feud in the covid thread is dumb/pathetic and both sides should ignore each other. But they obviously can’t.
I just think banning the same person dozens of times is beyond parody.
Agreed, just let them post innit.
maybe the wrong people are getting the bans?
edit: I’m against bans and I don’t think I’ve voted in any polls about banning xyz etc - though I could be wrong?
There are probably some people who should have gotten timeouts who shouldn’t have.
There have probably been some unwarranted timeouts.
Someone has been banned 20+ times by ~7 mods. It’s not some one time error or singular grudge.
Well many disagree with that.
And as has been pointed out we just had a vote on perma-ing Churchill and the answer was no.
edit: … and then he gets banned for 2 months. Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining as they say.
Arguing about an individual poster doesn’t matter here. The point of this thread is to create the best rule for the community as a whole.
The problem here is that this is about edge cases. The majority of users here have never been banned! Most here would never continually upset someone else, and would apologize if they did so. Treating you the same as someone who has been banned ~20 times won’t work.
I think you should have to do a ton of terrible stuff to get permanently banned. Dude who posted horse porn? Fine. Doxx someone? Fine. I have “get banned 20+ timea” in this category as well.
Because the options with Churchill are:
-Allow the repeated trolling with attacks on family members of posters they do not like with no punishment
-Keep doling out short term bans for said trolling
-permanently ban
At the top of my head:
-allowing things to settle might take for than 2 days
-making the point that certain types of behavior are not tolerated by/in this community
-longer bans might be a disincentive against unwanted behavior
Because a day or two bans has been done 20+ times, and the community as a whole isn’t willing to pull a trigger on a permanent ban on a poster who just finished up trolling people using their children as bait while posting articles saying the cdc is made up of Biden sycophants.
Frankly, I think the better question is why do you want to allow that in the community?
It’s not like churchill is like many here, who get angry and lose their shit sometimes. These are consistent, purposely calculated attempts to ruin discussion here. Churchill doesn’t think the CDC is a “kangaroo court” run by Biden “sycophants”, he’s posting that specifically to ruin this site. Fuck that noise.
Literally nothing you wrote in this post matters at all to the discussion. The questions are extremely straightforward.
So do you believe a mod should be able to permanently ban a poster without community approval? If no, what is the maximum length they should be able to ban someone without community approval?
Come on … (I read those posts)
(imo obv) There are some bad faith posters here who just can’t wait for a Churchill post so they can weaponise whatever they can to continue their feuds - and hyperbole rules!.
This goes back to 2+2 and was an aspect I’d hope we shake off - we are 40+ year olds after all.
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Again, you are using this post to argue bullshit that doesn’t matter.
Answer the following extremely simple questions. Any other discussion is completely pointless.
Do you believe a mod should be able to permanently ban a poster without community approval? If no, what is the maximum length they should be able to ban someone without community approval?
Yes. Should they be able to unilaterally do it just because? Of course not. Maybe something like “needs the approval of every current moderator” would be a decent idea for any permanent ban.
I think that’s better than community approval tbh.
I am also fine revisiting any permanent ban after 6 months, 1 year or any time deemed “appropriate.”
I’m sorry meb but you aren’t the king of this thread that gets to dictate what gets discussed. Furthermore, the churchill situation, while an edge case, is obviously relevant in this discussion no matter how much you don’t want to talk about it. Shit, it’s why this thread got made. Pretending otherwise for expedience only makes since to rush to codify a stupid rule.
This is why you are destroying this forum.
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So they should be able to ban for any length less than permanent without any approval?
Survivor cn vs churchhill imo
Can you be more specific?
You fuck up every thread you participate in with your personal squabbles and refuse to ever let an argument die. You are the single worst poster on this forum just like you were on 2+2 Ikes.
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