Got a good lol at Wookie being a fascist. I’m sure I’m seen as a Wookie bootlicker and that’s fine I guess but I’m going to have to see some cites to be convinced Wookie is Mussolini or something.
I don’t know, maybe we can also make a new subforum devoted to talking about politics and everybody can talk about what fascism was and is in theory and practice? Maybe authoritarianism as well or something, just an idea.
“Fascism” doesn’t just mean “authoritarian” the same way “Hitler” doesn’t just mean “fascist”. MrWookie isn’t Hitler, in case that needed to be spelled out.
I don’t want to put words in mouths (more than I might’ve already, potentially) but I’m kinda hoping that we’re saying here that Chads and Micro are more authoritarian because they have more flags and bans under their belts. I mean, yeah, if you apply the rules to all sides it might actually shake out that way.
What I really want to ask is, do you think Chads or Micro would’ve locked my thread (or locked or throttled the threads people were discussing things in) without even a respectful explanation as to why?
Now, to save us all time, the conversation is going to go this way:
First, you’re going to ignore the question about what Chads or Micro would’ve done.
Next you’re going to say “Well, yeah, MrWookie did that because…”
Then I’m going to reply, “Yes, I know that’s why MrWookie did that, I’m glad you could be persuaded.”
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I feel like these two clips from Big Lebowski pretty much sum up most of the drama here
Interpret as you will
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This is very true. The people constantly demanding blood should tone it down.
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I delete more posts that I hit go on. But that’s more because they are mostly trash rather than unkind (generally). Yes. Imagine how bad the ones I delete must be if these are making it through.
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I swear, and you’ll just have to take my word, that I really thought that was a joke you’d appreciate, considering you’ve been posting like that for the past week, cranked up to 11. A joke that both of you I was replying to could’ve said, “Lol he’s not talking about me, it must be the other guy.” But if you were felt shitty I actually do apologize. Of course it was a zinger, and considering you hadn’t replied to the Choose Your Own Adventure post about me being insulting in every post I, and zinged me in other spots, I thought it’d be fine, but I would’nt have zinged if I thought you’d feel actually shitty.
If that’s not sufficient then you can use up one of your Sartres. Everybody has five free Sartres at their disposal:
When I use mine I’m gonna literally say, “I am loftily indicating that the time for argument is past.”
I didn’t mean to ignore you, I didn’t perceive that your earlier post was looking for a reply from me even though you mentioned my name. It’s fine to @ me and be direct, I don’t shy away from this stuff, even though the throttles give me some short-term-memory absentminded-professor problems.
As far as Sabo, sure I’ll take responsibility. I just disagree that there’s anything notable to take responsibility for. He changed the Clovis-name-thing on his proboard when I asked.
As far as the other stuff, one of the main reasons this has me so animated is that I don’t believe he did anything wrong, relatively speaking, and I’m legit fascinated by how anybody could. I’m not mad about it, and it’s not my style to do Free Sabo or Free ____ campaigns and make a stink about it in that manner, but if you’re directly asking me my opinion then I have no problem sharing it, and, no, he did absolutely nothing wrong.
One confusing thing is that obviously, yes, I can see things that people would perceive as wrong. But when I say that everybody does them, and everybody has done them to Sabo, I’m not saying two-wrongs-make-a-right; I’m saying that if forum culture has adopted conversational tones and behaviors then these things are not wrong in that sense.
It’s like with my joke just now with Goofy. I’m not saying, “oh, it was just a joke,” because yes, I was trying to zing him and not show him the utmost respect and make him the butt of my joke. The point of mentioning it was a joke, after he said I was disrespectfully shitty, was to point out that due to the previous tones adopted there was already a base level of zingy disrespectfulness and I was going with the flow. And, due to this base level there’s less of a margin-for-error when not trying to be super shitty, but a larger safe zone to be a little shitty.
To steer it back to Sabo, he had people say he was a lunatic hearing voices and talking to himself, split personalities with Tourette’s-style gibberish, and on and on, including Jmkn. So when he, quite accurately, describes Jmkn as having a mental meltdown, the only thing to really say is that it might’ve been insensitive to state it as “mental meltdown” and not a more sympathetic term. But, even that’s open to argument because we have quite the lowkey super shitty toxic culture here. I mean, lol, I’ve been derided for being potentially mentally ill like a half dozen times this past week.
Basically, the only difference between a kid saying “no dad he did it first, he started it” and a lawbro talking about “forms and precedents” are how verbose they want to be and how many big words they want to use to describe things. With this bullshit I just typed I’m probably in-between somewhere.
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Despite the 2/3 in favor of the new sub, I don’t see why an RFC is actually necessary, tbh. It isn’t a rule change (which Wookie told me was the purpose of RFCs). No compelling arguments have been given against the idea (“I don’t like you guys” doesn’t count), so I think we can affirm the work greg has already done to make it happen and move ahead.
And, really, the sub will happen either way. It will be a PM thread if not an open forum. An open forum would be more fun and inclusive so let’s do that instead. If Trolly and smkr and Ikes and the rest insist on being difficult and refuse to “allow” (lol) a live and let live attitude to creative pursuits of the forum’s members, well so be it. The sub will still happen by other means. Boots on necks only go so far.
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Agreed. This should open.
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Lol if swearing in new mods requires an rfc and vote, a new forum with new mods and rules surely must.
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If no RFC is required to open up a new subforum, then no RFC should be required to shut one down.
Saying people concerned with splitting the forum in half are just doing it because they don’t like some of the participants is both insulting and mostly untrue imo.
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I thought we were waiting on this? (I’m not saying we need to; that’s just where I thought we were)
More importantly, is JT back? If so, woohoo!
Some mods weren’t voted on, so there’s precedence.
Shoulda done this sooner.
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