RFC: A rule requiring pms to moderators before posting complaints.

How many fewer would there be if all you guys whining about the whiners would stfu? Be the change you want to see in the world.

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This is gaslighting.

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How is that gaslighting? Iā€™m not saying that the mod whiners donā€™t exist. Iā€™m even accepting j manā€™s premise that most people dgaf about their complaints and find it annoying. But by the same token, how many people care about j manā€™s mod rights activism? Iā€™m thinking not a lot.

The gaslighting is saying that people complaining about complainers should stfu because they should be the change they want to see. Do they not have a fair complaint? If other people can complain, itā€™s a perfectly valid counter-complaint to make at this point.

Jman is trying to limit moderation complaints! Something has to be done about all these whiny superfluous posts that the community doesnā€™t care about, he says. Well, if he really believes that, maybe he should limit his deluge of whiny posts that I doubt the community really cares about.

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thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying is gaslighting lol

cmon

Because what should be obvious to you by now is that the people who think that things are fine tend not to chime in, so the people posting in ATF are not at all representative of forum sentiment. There arenā€™t people to tell the complainers to settle down, and those that are there are not respected by the complainers. There is no check on someone waging a years long campaign over their own grief no matter how many people say that the 24 hr ban that led to this was justified.

You twice, BS twice. Anyone else? Thatā€™s hardly ā€œall the timeā€.

Well, part of hte problem is that tehreā€™s no actual ā€œsideā€ on my ā€œsideā€ because I donā€™t have 5 friends who follow me around to complain every time I get banned, but other notable recent bans that did not involve a 300 post thread complaining about it would include, for example, goofyballer.

lol goofballer agreed to his ban beforehand, no way wookie would have just banned him absent that.

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That was goofyballerā€™s second recent ban. He was also banned by the other new mod recently. (Pocketchads? I always get him confused with riskyflush) The reason you probably donā€™t remember that is because it didnā€™t generate a 300 post jalfreziesque whine-thread, because whining about a 12 hour time-out is really silly.

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damn, sounds like heā€™s a real problem poster, I had no idea

my ban? - where i dared to copy paste the very same insult a poster replied to me only 3 posts earlier in the same thread - churchill - ban, other poster crickets - lol

You recognize youā€™re not making the point you think youā€™re making, right?

No, you have two or three friends to do that and a mod to overreact as he did with the ludicrous week-long ban over an anti-racist observation recast as NAKED RACISM that the community forced him to overturn.

Youā€™re not fooling anyone, it even drove microbet away so well done there.

Cite 3 posts from anyone, including me, complaining about the recent ban of myself, or the last two of goofyballer. Go ahead, Iā€™m waiting. Iā€™ll save you the trouble. Youā€™re lying. Youā€™re the only one here with such a thin skin that you complain every single time.

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Take what, exactly? The RFC? Why does that need to go into discourse. Itā€™s an RFC.