Request for Comments: Gatekeeping Rule and Moderator Votes

[boredsocial]

The issue with this line of thinking is that it allows the moderation of the site to be dominated by the people who have the most stake in it (and no one has a bigger stake in moderation decisions than people who want to troll, which might be why they never ever stop complaining about it). The trolls have a voter turnout rate of 100%, at a minimum everyone on the site should be notified that there’s a vote taking place so that they can weigh in.

[microbet]

A banner isn’t really badgering anyway, so :shrug:

Also, any poster would always be able to post about it in the LC thread or wherever.

[MrWookie]

There’s no reason why we can’t question the good faith of a slew of gimmick votes or the like. That is already against the rules.

[Jalfrezi]

@boredsocial

The trolls have a voter turnout rate of 100%

At last, we have an official troll list…

[jmakin]

I am a troll, but I do not troll this site. I reserve that for facebook but I am close to being banned there.

[microbet]

So, I have only 9 more days as a mod. Things have been going so well lately and I’m hoping to ride this out in peace. Yeah, I’m sure @boredsocial meant you @Jalfrezi (among others) - but please, let’s call this even and stop it here.

[whosnext]

What happened to the idea of opening an “official” RFC thread for mod issues (terms, etc.)?

I think everybody will agree to having “parallel” threads and timelines at this point. If for no other reason than to start the clock ticking (or else this will all take a very long time).

[MrWookie]

To the best of my knowledge, no. And even if so, it wouldn’t really prevent malfeasance, as a handful of gimmicks could vote, but their votes couldn’t be invalidated. They could scuff the whole vote that way.

[jmakin]

There’s probably a way I could view something like that but I’ve never bothered to look into it, just guessing.

[econophile]

Based on the poll results, this should proceed to a rule vote.

[MrWookie]

Happy to see unanimous assent. Excellent work synthesizing forum sentiment.

[jmakin]

Alright maybe someone else can make it and I can just banner it if people want

[econophile]

@microbet would you mind making the OP and poll for the new thread?

I think it will be more neutral and official if it comes from one of the mods or admins. Alternatively, we could create an account just for making official polls.

I can draft up the OP if that makes it easier.

[microbet]

I don’t mind, and you drafting it would be great, thanks.

[NotBruceZ]

Don’t you really just need a preface that this is the rule up for a vote, then copy the text from this post:

Request for Comments: Gatekeeping Rule and Moderator Votes

@jmakin could you make a poll on the wording below in this thread? The poll should read “Should this proposal advance to a binding vote?” and have choices of “Yes” and “No.” Please make a public poll that closes in 1 week. The modifications from the previous draft include specifying that the rulemaking process will apply to “standards of user conduct” in addition to moderation issues. This is to make it clear that issues like the recent c-word discussion would be covered by the rulemaking pr…

Then add a poll, yes/no, enable show who voted.

[microbet]

Looking at that posts and the posts since then, that seems right.

@economist, is that right?

[econophile]

We need a post like the one below. The poll should be open for a week with “single choice” and “show who voted” checked

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Poll: should the following proposal be adopted as a forum rule?

• Yes
• No

Rules pertaining to standards of user conduct or forum moderation, including selection, tenure and conduct of moderators, shall be introduced through the request for comments (“RFC”) process.

Any user may initiate an RFC for a proposed rule by creating a thread in the About Unstuck subforum.

The purpose of RFC threads is to facilitate community input on proposed rules.

The initial post of an RFC thread should describe the proposed rule. Any user may provide input on the proposed rule by posting in the RFC thread.

After an RFC thread has been open for at least 3 full days , any user can request a Forum Administrator to create a poll within the RFC thread to approve the wording for the proposal. Upon receipt of such request, a Forum Administrator shall use the Administrative Account to create a public poll stating the proposed wording of the rule with the choices of “Yes” or “No.” The poll shall remain open for a period of one week . If the poll receives support from a majority of voters , the proposal will proceed to a binding rule vote. Otherwise, debate on the proposal may continue and any user can again request a vote on wording within the RFC thread.

If a proposal proceeds to a binding rule vote, a Forum Administrator will create a new thread in the About Unstuck subforum with a public poll stating the proposed wording of the rule with the choices of “Yes” or “No.” The poll shall remain open for a period of one week . The proposed rule will be adopted if it receives support from at least two thirds of all voters for moderator appointments or if it receives support from at least 60 percent of voters for all other rules .

Until rules regarding the selection and tenure of moderators have been adopted: (1) the current moderators will remain in their roles; (2) the moderators will not permanently ban any user unless that user publicly requests such a ban; and (3) the moderators will not ban any user in a way that prevents the user from voting in an RFC poll or in a biding rule vote poll with the exception of bans issued in accordance with this section.

[microbet]

Done and done and I mean done. Correctly I hope.

[Jalfrezi]

Nitting but 3 full days = 3 full calendar days or 72 hours?

[microbet]

3 day? It is 7 days I think. And the calendar thingy I clicked gave date and time and it was exactly the same time of day 7 days from now.