It doesnât have nothing to do with it, but it doesnât explain it. First, she was just running for Dem nomination. And she wouldnât have been the first woman nominated. And Warren was one of the people taking away her support. And Obama was extremely popular. And voters were absolutely not rejecting her because she was a prosecutor. She wasnât getting support from that crowd no matter what. People didnât like her and Iâm not really sure why. Worse than Hillary. I also donât really get why Newsome is so hated. Maybe itâs what they both have in common: California.
Maybe only conservatives can come from California or New York, because they also hate California and New York themselves.
That was my point. Biden might also be in that category. He was dealing with his kid dying and presumably not really thinking about the grooming in the latter half of Obamaâs second term.
Kind of Groomed â GHWB, Gore
Mostly not Groomed â Cheney, Pence, Biden
Your main point (I guess) was that Biden was mostly not groomed. I agree with that. I was more arguing with your side point/aside regarding âkind of groomedâ.
Also, and this wonât happen, probably the most likely winner of anyone would be Michelle Obama.
She would wafflecrush. Sadly it wonât happen.
You guys really think so? Obama is what gave us MAGA. They were always here, but it energized and enabled them. Iâd worry that Michelle might do the same and bring them out in droves
That said, Iâd love for her to run
Michelle Obama wonât run because she doesnât want to be President? She can pretend. She can get elected. And then she can hand over the office to her VP. Easy game.
And Barry would have crushed Trump too. Itâs about your own turnout, not about the haters.
if you from a year in the future came back and told you sheâs president on june 30th, 2025, you mad?
This is demoralizing as a supercut, but I donât think itâs that bad when most people are only going to hear her speak at most once. It may even be smart verbiage in that light.
Iâm not sure thereâs a path forward that isnât either Biden or promoting Kamala to POTUS. The thinking is that a VP is chosen as the best person to take over the presidency in any succession situation. If they donât pick her, the messaging becomes that sheâs a bad VP because sheâs not ready to be POTUS.
If Harris brings the same cabinet Biden would bring, I am among the two people who want her to be POTUS.
Sorry for the multi posts.
If anything I hope this election season puts to bed all those JFK conspiracy theories. If there was any truth to all this deep state stuff we had better be seeing some bodies soon.
Lol chatGPT giving us the starting point as the conclusion.
The replies are pretty good.
Mike Pence has entered the chat room.