Who the fuck cares if he had alcohol or drugs in his bloodstream. I have weed in my system 24/7(because it takes forever to leave) and alcohol probably at least 30% of the time. If a cop kills me does that mean I deserved it?
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It really should be a none issue when we have video of the perp sitting on the victims neck for minutes.
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Are you black?
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Remember, 499,000 buildings are lost to fire every year, so a few burning down is no reason to shut a city down.
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Update: Beyond the clip of the umbrella guy in the other shot near another fire, the YouTube video is just an old man with conspiracy theories IMO. Hadn’t seen that second clip anywhere, though, so I think it’s worth posting for that.
Clever. Is that original? If so, tweet it somewhere. Seems like a good potential to go viral.
Not really - wish i could claim credit. Saw something similar from a rando on facebook and took it
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Are you black?
Is your pony?
FTR I am not black. And you guys are making the same point I am which is that it is total bullshit that it even matters at all. If you are black I guess any excuse will do.
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Several causes come to mind.
- Carotid sinus syndrome - pressure on carotid sinus (near the carotid artery) causes a catastrophic loss of pulse and pressure, causes death.
- Black males (and to a greater degree white ones) especially in smokers are prone to develop calcific plaque in their great vessels - pressure on the neck can fracture the plaque, causing death
- Underlying heart disease causing sudden cardiac death
- and probably half a dozen other things that will be looked for on post
Now it seems obvious why he died, and almost certainly the cause is what it seems - but they’re going to take a GOOD look at him before singing him out. The ME has a specific roadmap to sort this stuff out, and this is EXACTLY why they’re going to take their time.
MM MD
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The post is done. Other than tox and maybe some tissue studies, what do you still think they’re doing? He died four days ago. I’ve been involved in lots of posts. The only time the process took a long time was when the person had been deceased for weeks when they found the body and we had to bring in a forensic anthropologist.
I mean it worked to normalize 3-4 9/11s a week worth of Covid deaths so why not go back to the well and see if it works for murdering black people.
“potential intoxicants?”
I guess I’m inured to it a bit, but I don’t know how people are reading that report and coming to the conclusion it can be presented as exculpatory. Yes, he had some underlying health conditions and was intoxicated, which is why kneeling on his neck for 7 minutes caused his death. So what? Legally that doesn’t change anything. Morally that doens’t change anything. I don’t want to reveal to much personal information, but I once prosecuted a case (not involving police) with similar facts where the death was caused by one person being on top of another one forcefully for too long (was a felony murder). The fact that the victim was obese contributed to the death but didn’t make it any less of a murder.
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Tox, which will probably medically at most minimally helpful and probably useless.
But the ME isn’t going to sign off without the tox, and he’s going to be VERY careful on having a clean post. This is a career killing postmortum if it’s screwed up. Some weird bullshit incidental finding showing up not completely explained -
I agree it looks obvious, and it’s clearly murder - and I’m not understanding why 3rd rather than 2nd degree - but I’m not a lawyer.
MM MD
It straight-up says he wasn’t strangled. Unless this is dumb lawyer shit I don’t understand, I don’t see how that’s remotely possible or how you get a murder charge.
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“being restrained by the police”
That’s one way to say, “having his neck knelt on for 8 minutes and 46 seconds,” I suppose.
I’m guessing that you’re looking at it purely legally (which you said lol), while most of us non-legals are looking at it from the lens of now the GOP/white supremacists will flood the media with this nonsense as if he deserved it.
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So they are going with he had one foot in the grave anyway?
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