Police Murder George Floyd Then Riot Nationwide (Links to Streams in OP)

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@catfacemeowmers

But I couldn’t stab someone in the chest and then say “well I didn’t mean for him to actually DIE” - dying is just what happens after you stab someone in the chest, so if I intended to stab, I intended to kill.

Same thing should apply here. And if this were some random guy off the street I’d expect the prosecutor to charge both, so that a jury looking to compromise convicts on the 3rd degree rather than the manslaughter.

I agree. You intend the necessary and probably consequences of your actions, and intent to kill can be formed in the moment. That intent can be inferred from those actions. He kneeled on him for 7 minutes while he begged, then he lost consciousness, then he continued kneeling on him for another 2 minutes. I’d have charged that as intentional.

[anachronistic]

Hell no (to amnesty).

First of all, how do you define “the rioting period”?

[boredsocial]

Then where are you getting this fanciful nonsense other than cop shows on TV?

[Cactus]

@clovis8

This makes no sense. Institutions are just collections of people.

Corporations are supposed to be people too, right? Yet, they have become insurmountably evil and immovable impediments to equality. I think it’s a huge mistake to view institutions as individuals. The power shifts to the top and becomes controlled by a handful of elitists who rule with an iron fist and quash the minority lower class

[boredsocial]

Interesting thing, the medical examiner seems to be saying that there’s no evidence of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation in the preliminary findings on Floyd’s death. What’s interesting about that is that I actually believe it, and strongly suspect we are witnessing a method by which police officers murder people and get away with it. I wonder how many people have life ending health complications during arrest in America?

Definitely a good idea to check how many this particular officer has been present for.

[anachronistic]

Those are only the “reported” instances of excessive force.

It’s hard to imagine that wasn’t the tip of the iceberg.

[iron81]

Vague feels probably based on old news reports.

[anachronistic]

Won’t have any effect on the murder charge.

Causation is clear.

[boredsocial]

You’re going to need to make peace with the fact that that was 95% propaganda and you actually live in a dystopian police state.

[Cactus]

This better be handled by a SPECIAL prosecutor from the outside or the rioting should escalate 100 fold imo

[spidercrab]

@anon38180840

Your honor, I plead not guilty, you see I shot him in the head, that’s true… But he had an underlying health issue of being a mere mortal. He was going to die eventually anyway!

Ah, okay then, I find you not guilty. Have a good day officer. Everyone clear the court room before they burn this bitch down.

I’m sure that the narrator will speak up, but isn’t this a textbook example of the eggshell skull rule meaning the cop can’t use it as a defense?

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@hobbes9324

what I perceive to have pretty good cops - we had a couple of apparent hyperthermia related deaths in jail due to meth toxicity but those seemed to be neglect rather than intentional, and we’ll have probably a police related shooting maybe 3-4 times a year, but each shooting is referred to another department for review.

JFC WAT.

That this qualified as good in any decent person’s mind shows how fucking abysmal the state of things is.

The neglect is intentional, so the deaths are also. Getting cops from a different town to sign off on your murders isn’t accountability. None of these things is OK. Your cops may be the tallest midgets but they still have a systemic violence problem.

[catfacemeowmers]

Yeah that one made me do a double take too.

[anon38180840]

@spidercrab

I’m sure that the narrator will speak up, but isn’t this a textbook example of the eggshell skull rule meaning the cop can’t use it as a defense?

Maybe they’ll just charge him with a lesser charge and ask for a lesser sentence and the judge will slap him on the wrist.

[Cactus]

@boredsocial

What’s interesting about that is that I actually believe it, and strongly suspect we are witnessing a method by which police officers murder people and get away with it.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think this technique is standard protocol of procedures. If anything, the cop should’ve had his knee on the guy’s head NOT neck! And that is probably a big reason the guy was finally arrested. If he was using standard restraining procedure he probably doesn’t get into trouble at all. Knowing a lethal hold doesn’t mean it’s in their guidelines to use it

[boredsocial]

Yeah learning how to do this would be more of an OJT thing than a textbook thing.

The part of police procedure this move would be about is autopsy procedure and knowing how to avoid it. If you know what someone looks for getting away with a crime is trivially easy.

[hobbes9324]

Both meth toxicity cases (I understand) were in the CPC wing of the jail, basically a holding area for people who are supposed to be watched by nurses until they sober up - both were found unresponsive and take to the hospital, and died. The company lost the contract, not that that helped the poor people who died.

I have no idea what the fuck you’re on about the officers in terms of the PD shootings and handled by another agency - when a shooting occurred, another agency takes over the investigation, which seems fair. AFAIK there hasn’t been a “bad” shooting in the last 10 years, although I’d certainly willing to admit I may have missed one. I live in an area for population of 500K, and AFAIK the numbers of police shootings doesn’t seem excessive - tons of guns here. But you do you, I guess.

MM MD

[anachronistic]

Bingo

[Preet_Bharara]

@boredsocial

Yeah learning how to do this would be more of an OJT thing than a textbook thing.

The part of police procedure this move would be about is autopsy procedure and knowing how to avoid it. If you know what someone looks for getting away with a crime is trivially easy.

The medical examiner wouldn’t just lie about the cause of death.

[anachronistic]

And even if they did it doesn’t matter.