Whoa, definitely not. At the low stakes it almost always means they’re bluffing. It’s one of my favorite tells because of how reliable and comically dumb it is. There have been times I was about to fold the winner until my opponent was dumb enough to blurt that out. I don’t hear it as often these days though.
I feel like most competent players know about that tell, so if a non-idiot player says it, I just pretend I didn’t hear it so as not to get into a leveling roundabout ("he knows I know the tell, or maybe he knows I know he knows I know the tell…).
But your general point about unprompted speech is right. Just last night, I was contemplating a heroic river call. I tanked, then eventually decided to call, but thankfully I don’t do anything verbally. Literally as I reached for my chips to call, my opponent, bless his soul, said, “You have to fold, bro! You can’t call that.” That stopped me right in my tracks and I folded. He turned his hand over because it qualified for the High Hand (he had a boat). His dumb speech saved me like 90 bb.
I don’t think he saw me reaching for my chips. He probably thought I was gonna fold since I was taking so long, so he figured he’d try to egg me into calling.
In my experience 3-betting pre in this spot (before people get tight and while you can still buy back in) gets all folds maybe 10-20% of the time. If MP and CO like their hands enough to play 3BB, they like them enough to play 15BB. What do you make it if you do 3-bet?
You’re as likely to be in a 4-way pot as all folds imo. Most likely scenario is probably 3-way with opener and caller. You do take it down a big chunk of the time post. But if they have a piece you pretty much have to commit to your whole stack to get them off of it. They never believe you until the river.
I always announce my bet sizes, guess I’m the weirdo. Avoids any confusion as to whether I’m raising and what not; I’ll be careful to make sure I don’t give something away by not doing it on the occasional hand.
Maybe i shouldn’t do it, not sure. I mostly do it because I’ve had some confusion in the past with a single chip meaning a call (myself and other players) so I try to get in the habit of just saying the amount. Also makes it easier to count the pot. I’m actually not positive I do it every time but I at least do it when I raise, will pay attention at the next tournament (freeroll that I qualified for).
I think I’d fold that turn. It’s been a while since I played live but I was reminded how much people love “trapping” with only moderately strong flop hands, like TPTK multi-way. Looks to me like not wanting to give a free card to draws with a made hand; doubt 56s is a major part of his range. Would just flat pre, doubt you get enough folds to make a 3b worth it.
Played a lol live donkament with a $100 buy-in. Four-handed at the final table. Big stack with 70% of the chips open limps. 6bb stack calls. 5bb stack completes in the small blind. I check my option with a 12bb stack because these guys are limp-calling hands like AQ and I have garbage. Since the small stacks keep limping, my second-biggest stack dwindles to 8bb before they bust because no one is raising pre.
FWIW I called and he had QQ - felt pretty stupid about it but maybe it was closer than I thought. Later he called my big flop bet with a gutshot and hit on the turn and busted me. So I think in this case the read of - big bet = big hand - very correct.
OK, I guess? It just seems like you both c-bet way too much and let people draw too cheap. I’ve seen a lot of small small bomb lines advocated, but that’s so exploitable.
First time getting stacked by an almost billionaire the other night in an $1100 (net worth approximately 900 million).
Blinds 200/300, I have ~37k.
Super loose billionaire who has bought in an attractive much younger redhead to the tournament as well limps in MP.
Folds to me in the SB with QJhh, I complete.
Flop is AQ2 rainbow, checks to the rich guy who bets 1k, I call, bb folds.
Turn is the 3h, I check and he bets 2500, I call.
River is the 6h, I check, he bets 3500, I check raise to 11.5k. He thinks for 30 seconds and shoves, I’m never folding to this guy in this spot, he has K8hh. He had 120k 10 minutes later and still ended up on 3 bullets in the tournament.
Is the ace the ace of hearts on the flop? If so then folding to anyone is nuts. But really folding to anyone is tough because how can you be sure they aren’t getting it in with a jack or ten high flush. If there are hands that your opponent can realistically value bet that you beat you have to call.
No, which makes it worse vs a normal opponent obviously, but this is a guy with 100% vpip who runs a home game where he buys in a couple of models and between them dump near 5 figures a night in a $2/5 game.
I have a ton of cash hands info on him second hand (can’t get invited to that game sadly), and two funny hands from the previous orbit where he limp-called Q3 utg and the weird one was the very previous orbit.
Rich guy opens to 1k at 200/300, I flat in sb with AJ and ~40k. BB calls as well. Flop is J23cc, I do not have a club, but lead 1700.
BB folds, rich guy throws out a 5k meaning it as a raise, but is held to a call. Turn is a 2d and he leads out 7500 and I fold.
Now, he shows a lot more strength this hand compared to the flush hand, and has a stronger range (until the river 3b, I guess). But, he is also not a thinking player. He’s just a mega rich dude who lights money on fire and the spot isn’t to be over thought, but you guys can poke fun at me like my irl friends for getting owned by a mega rich guy who doesn’t give a fuck about money because he owns a private island.
I don’t think he has it a ton, but I also didn’t want to bust third level of the 1k with one pair for well over 100bb and didn’t think I’d be getting it in an orbit later badly!
Against more competent/aggressive players, a default to check/calling is generally fine. Despite the hands posted, the guy is really not too aggressive of a player and had limped every other hand pf.