Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 2)

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (2024)

One of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time. Terrible story, awful acting, bad effects, funny as a funeral. So bad topto bottom. Can’t think of a single redeeming quality.

Grade: F

Ryder is so bad in this it has to be some weird acting choice to be purposely terrible.

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Wut

rofl you are absurd

Actually I guess the one redeeming thing is Elfman’s score.

I think both the miniatures and the town it self did the first movie some justice but more or less agree the more I think about that movie. I also think you’re probably a little harsh on Ryder but then again I’m not sure you’ve seen Stranger Things…

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for years, decades maybe, i thought i had seen True Romance (1993). christian slater in love with a girl, gets mixed up with dangerous dudes on the run yeah yeah yeah. i saw it as a teenager either drunk or high or probably both. i had no appreciation for what a monster film this is. it’s stacked with all my favorite actors. i saw quentin tarantino wrote it and it’s about detroit and i see gary oldman as an extremely hood ass detroit white guy and i said, “this is gonna be cringe. they’re gonna blow it” but gary oldman is such a genius, he NAILED it. how is an englishman portraying this character so perfectly like this? it’s movie magic.

well, right before the big shootout the movie buff character mentions Dr Zhivago (1965), and that’s a message that quentin tarantino is officially recommending this film to me. i’m constantly decoding his messages to me.

I loved the pro-communist rhetoric in the first half of the movie. Didn’t care so much for the anticommunist rhetoric in the second half tho. I would have ended the story with the glorious victory of the workers, and let that annoying counterrevolutionary pig doctor just go along with it.

And i’ll be honest with you, this movie has a 3h22m runtime and until the last moments i was still expecting him to reveal all his secret half-human half-animal creations, but apparently that’s a different movie.

3 bags of popcorn

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Rumors (2024). Saw this earlier today and I’m still not even sure if this is good… But it seems like it might appeal to some of the folks here. I don’t want to say too much, but I’ll just state a few facts.

  1. Ari Aster is an Exec Producer
  2. The setting is a G7 summit being held in a creepy German forest. At a certain point, all of the media and support staff mysteriously disappear and the leaders of the US, Canada, the UK, France, Germany, Italy, and Japan have to work together to try to figure out what happened and how to survive.
  3. Cate Blanchette plays the German Chancellor

Weird and darkly funny. 3.5 bags of popcorn but 10/10 on the “WTF” scale.

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The entire movie she just has this bad shocked look on her face and she delivers every line with the same dead tone. It’s really terrible.

I have not seen stranger things.

For the record, I thought she was great in some stuff in the 90s.

Also, I hadn’t mentioned the weird joke they make of not showing the kiddie porn guy but actually show him anyway meaning I am sure he got paid. So weird.

Rewatching Ring, holds up better than I remembered, pretty close to a perfect ghost story.

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I guess I should try to watch EEAAO.

Although I’m an outlier, while I thought Parasite was a decent movie, I don’t understand why everyone is gaga over a plot that’s just a clever metaphor. There didn’t seem to be much else there.

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@RiskyFlush

I’m going to need some TRANSlating

Did you watch Monkey Man? What was with the trans themes? It seems like they kind of just shoehorned it in there with no real point. Did I just miss something?

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I wish but I haven’t seen it unfortunately so can’t speak to it.

Well if you get around to it, please @ me. I was perplexed. I guess “non-binary” is a better description than “trans” with regard to what I was referring to. But probably some of both.

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Rewatched Dune: Part One and watch Dune: Part Two for the first time.

Part One was even more fun that I remembered, to the point that I’m wondering if it should have won Best Picture that year. (It was a pretty weak year)

Part Two seemed a bit rushed, especially towards the end. I won’t complain too much, everything else about it was top notch.

Part One: 9/10
Part Two: 8/10

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My initial reaction was to reject this out of hand, but as I look at the list of nominees…yeah it might have been the better result. CODA was a nice movie, but a bad Best Picture winner. It exists as a very brief time capsule of a pleasant enough COVID-era movie-watching experience that everyone ceased to care about within a month.

(Still glad CODA beat the boring-ass Power of the Dog if those were the only two options.)

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It could be a while before I see it, so I went looking for a source I trust. Autostraddle is a great place for analysis like this.

Hijra refers to people of a “third gender,” but is most commonly used to describe certain trans women living in community together. Halfway through the movie, when Patel’s character is on the lam for an aggression with a police captain, he seeks refuge in one of these hijra living communities. They make a classic alliance: two underdogs pinned down by systemic failure.

They talk about the Hindu folklore of Shiva and Parvati, a married couple who, together, are referred to as Ardhanarishvara, an androgynous figure meant to represent wholeness as more than two separate pieces coming together. “He needed to be reminded by fellow outsiders of who he was,” Patel told Variety. “And together they waged this war for the good and the just.” He refers to Monkey Man, which is based on old Hindu mythology about Hanuman, as an “anthem for the underdog, the voiceless, the marginalized.” The trans temple’s maternal figure, a woman named Alpha, builds his strengths back up, mentally, physically, and spiritually. He takes psychedelics (I assume), and faces his own traumas of poverty and police violence.That’s where we learn his targets are the forces who murdered his mother and burned down his village. In the final fight, the trans community form his army.

Thanks. I almost could have written that myself. It’s really more a summary of what happened than a why.

If you do ever see it, I’d be interested.

Warning: It’s not great.

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Yeah, the further I’ve gotten from this movie, the more I think there was very little going for it. As a theater experience in Dolby Cinema it was fun enough I guess. But probably never revisiting when I could just fire up a John Wick rewatch instead.

It seemed like a significant part of the story to me. The hero gets his ass saved multiple times by a community of trans outcasts! I didn’t know until an Indian friend explained to me that this is an actual, legally-recognized third gender in India

I thought Monkey Man was a blast if you’re looking for a fun action movie.

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It was significant! I’m just curious about why they chose a community of trans outcasts specifically. Any particular reason? They could have gone with a community of poor people or low caste people or non-Hindus. There are plenty of marginalized groups to choose from in India. Seems like a deliberate choice. But if you wanted to make a movie about that, this is a weird one to make.

I suppose one of the characters does give a reason, but that is one that could have easily been explained away if they went in a different direction.