Movies (and occasionally face slaps) (Part 1)

I hate superhero movies more than any human alive but they are movies and fit fine itt.

Instead of banning the superhero movie discussion we should focus on banning superhero movies

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I guess it’s inevitable that a country founded in religion would become obsessed with tales of good vs evil but it’s a pathetic use of a wonderfully rich medium and art form.

The people in the industry at large don’t agree with you though. Why do you think so many of the best directors/actors working dont view it the same way as you do?

Even the best directors have to finance their pet projects by doing commercial pap. cf Scorsese and Colour Of Money, Night Of The Hunter etc.

And some of them even say no. If they absolutely hated them and thought they were low art, they would do such.
There have been dozens of absolutely terrible superhero movies. From Superman 4 to The Justice League, there is no shortage of dreck. But, Marvel making good movies that tie together a 20+ movie arc is one of the most impressive things attempted in film.

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I think you’re taking generally fun, entertaining movies based on comic books a bit too seriously.

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Seems like a good deal for him tbh. Directors make movies he loves and gets to watch, but in turn they sometimes have to make a movie he can completely ignore!

Ssuperhero films are just good old honest fun entertainment, but how dare you call them lowbrow?

lol sure. I get that you love your comic book films but do you really know what you’re talking about here? people should really just read and think more about cinema and art in general.

I much prefer the usual Oscar bait to superhero movies tbh, but if you can’t appreciate that a successful 25 movie arc in a decade is impressive, you’re trying too hard.

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Batman is an archetype for a certain type of aggressive masculinity. He broods in silence. He has a Code. He is an elite athlete. He is an elite intellect. And he mostly solves problems with explosive violence.

Right. And what makes him relatable is?

Relatable probably isn’t the right word. I would say that he is a symbol of (often toxic) masculinity. This is a persistent male fantasy - being stronger than others, smarter than others, using violence to eliminate problems, and generally doing all of that under the umbrella of Personal Sacrifice. I think elements of this fiction resonate a lot with what men think is expected of them, even if their lives don’t really look like Batmans.

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The same thing that makes Citizen Kane relatable

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Batman is a billionaire with a secret underground lair full of awesome gadgets. You guys are way overthinking this.

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Batman movie where Joker and Penguin are running for Mayor so Batman has to vote for the lesser of two evils.

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Seriously. It’s a comic book character. He fights bad guys with his gadgets and skillz. And he’s pretty emo.

lol?

You are way oversimplifying the appeal of the best Batman stories, but I understand if your personal appreciation goes no deeper than this.

For the record, I like Batman. But I think it is probably good to be thoughtful about how close Batman’s story can run to some pretty destructive narratives. Lots of Frank Miller’s Batman stories are explicitly fascist fantasy for example.

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