Michigan terrorist group arrested for plotting to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.

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The pool of prospective jurors was drawn from a 22-county slice of western and northern Michigan, extending from just below the Grand Rapids metro area to the tip of the Lower Peninsula. The region is largely rural and leans Republican, although Democrats recently have gained in Grand Rapids — the state’s second-largest city — and surrounding Kent County, which backed Whitmer in 2018. She carried only two of the other counties.

What do you know about the political attitudes of northern lower peninsula Michigan?

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Here’s the jury:

  • A man from Up North who works as a compliance officer at a casino and plays hockey with cops and firefighters. He said he has no biases.
  • A man who is a Michigan State fan and tool and die engineer who said he can be a fair juror.
  • A man who owns an AR-15 rifle, which he described as a former military weapon that sits in his closet most of the time. He works third shift in a factory of some sort, and works out at a gym. He noted his rifle is now a semi-automatic.
  • A man who works as a CT scan technologist who expressed concerns with missing work, but said he could handle the issues of the trial.
  • A man who works at a molding and plastics plant, hunts and owns multiple guns, including an assault rifle because, he said, “I like the style of it.”
  • A man who said he was excited to be on the jury.
  • A woman who works as a secretary at a university. She said she can be fair and impartial and made a comment stating, “I don’t believe everything I hear until I see receipts.” She said she has no cable TV, but had heard about the Whitmer kidnap plot case.
  • A woman who described herself as a “news junkie,” but said that she only reads headlines. She said she was aware of the Whitmer kidnap case, but is not political and has no time constraints that would prevent her from being a juror.
  • A woman who said she doesn’t really watch the news and isn’t political, either.
  • A woman with four children who said she remembered when the alleged kidnap plot case first happened, but that she hasn’t followed any of it. Politically, she said she is in the middle of the road, saying “The truth lies pretty close to the middle.” She said she disagreed with some government decisions that were made during the pandemic, but noted that she wouldn’t have wanted to be in the position of having to make those decisions, either.
  • A woman who works as a project manager at a printing company. “I think I could decide this case. I saw it mentioned on the news but don’t know the particulars. … I remember hearing about it when it first happened,” she said.
  • A grandmother of four who described herself as a “grannie-nanny” who takes care of her grandchildren while their parents are at work, saying: “I’m like their second mother.” She has a sewing business and watches the news, noting her husband is an avid news watcher and that the Whitmer kidnap case is talked about in their home. She said she could put her husband “on mute” if she had to. They don’t own any guns, she said, “but I don’t have problems with guns at all.” She said she has political leanings, without elaborating, but can put them aside.
  • A woman who works as a preschool teacher who said she heard a little bit about the case, but is not a big news person or a big follower of politics. She said she can be fair. She was asked if she’s familiar with memes — which were part of the trial testimony as the defendants were accused of sending violent memes to one another. She said she is familiar with memes: “It’s a funny caption that makes people laugh.”
  • A woman from Up North whose husband owns a couple of guns. " I really don’t know anything about the case. I don’t have cable. My children have me on Spotify. I listen to music instead of the news." She said she didn’t know anything about the Whitmer case before heading to jury selection, and that a family member mentioned that there’s a case involving Whitmer. “I knew nothing about it. We live Up North.”
  • A woman who works as a dispatcher and doesn’t listen to the news. “I don’t know much about this case at all,” she said, noting she heard some details about it when it first happened and “that’s it.” She said she can decide the case. “I don’t get into politics.”
  • A woman who works as an adult foster care director and owns a gun. “I’m pretty indifferent, I don’t watch the news. I have no cable TV.” She said she can set aside her political views, noted that adult foster care workers were on the front lines during the pandemic and said she doesn’t think the governor “takes into account everything all the time.”
  • A woman who said she heard about militias growing up, noting she grew up during the Waco, Texas, case, but that she didn’t know much about them.
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SK if you had passing familiarity with how difficult a time the FBI has had prosecuting various white militia/right wing terriorism issues you wouldn’t be saying this stupid shit. Other people remember Ammon Bundy, Fort Smith, Randy Weaver and more.

If you actually give a shit about informing yourself, you should read “Oklahoma City: What the Investigation Missed–and Why It Still Matters”, which dives into the conspiracy behind the OKC bombings and how the FBI passed on all of it to guarantee a conviction of McVeigh and Nichols.

Or you could keep giving your opinions about cities and areas you’ve never been to in an attempt to people who actually know that area quite well and quoting clowns like Jacobin/Greenwald.

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lol ikes I’ve lived in western michigan and my Dad currently lives there.

Anyway, I definitely agree that these sorts of cases are hard to prove, as they should be:

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1512517343334699008

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Then you don’t have any excuse to say such nonsense about the Grand Rapids area.

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What nonsense is that ikes? That it’s a medium sized city that votes democrat and in no way resembles backwoods Alabama?

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If Keeed assumed that the jury was picked from Kent County, that probably just means he was uninformed and not necessarily constructing a strawman.

I would like to know his opinions on the people of the rest of that region, though.

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Kent county went Trump in 2016 and MI-3 has Peter Meijer as it’s US House Rep. You know better.

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ah yes, harkens back to the Trump maps where he touts the geographical area he won. Those counties probably voted 60/40 Trump/Biden by population.

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Kent county was more blue in 2020, but was trump in 2016 and has a long standing very powerful state gov level republican base that’s turned out all sorts of local/state republicans.

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Kent County went Obama, Romney, Trump, Biden in the last four presidential elections.

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huh ikes funny you choose 2016 there, how did the 2020 election go in Kent county?

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“votes democrat”, voted for Romney and Trump, has a current republican congressman, and is a major hub for republican state level politics, but “votes democrat”. That’s not ‘votes democrat’.

That doesn’t even get into the shithole counties to the south, east, and north of GR. At least west has some gorgeous beaches.

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Do you think those are squares of equal population

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lol shithole counties. How many Whitmer voters do you think was on that jury?

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It’s close enough that a dumb person can sincerely think the region votes Democratic.

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Can’t imagine why else you’d post something so dumb.

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Given Keeed’s track record, what are we even doing ITT?

He’s clearly right, just like Putin clearly won’t invade and Trump clearly won’t try to overturn the election.

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Do you think he thinks Grand Rapids is SUPER DEMOCRATIC

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Are you OK?