Nobody with a brain thinks Israel would intentionally do this. It’s dumb. And that latest video really looks like an accident to me. There are a ton of smaller explosions on one building and then the next one over cooks off massively.
This is a run of the mill example of gross industrial negligence probably. This shit happens every 4-5 years in Texas it feels like.
How else are they gonna supply the US with 4th of July fireworks?
Remember the Maine!
This thread is pretty wild. You can literally see a conspiracy theory develop in real time.
Yeah, gross industrial negligence in an area where multiple groups/militaries were storing a large amount of explosives and explosive materials.
Yeah. Like ammonium nitrate storage (like I said first) is a good possibility, but the tut tutting about chat on this forum is as bad faith faux-outrage as it gets.
Trump’s president so I guess you can’t be sure, but in any competent administration there’s a 100% chance the president would speak to his national security team and then Netanyahu within minutes of this happening to make sure it wasn’t them or any other military/militant group in the area. They’d be in the situation room going over intel on what’s in the area, has there been any chatter lately, etc.
To consider that possibility in the immediate hours afterward is not a conspiracy theory, it’s just what intelligent and reasonable people would do.
It’s one of those unlikely scenarios that’s extremely important to rule out ASAP because it could lead to WW3.
Fuck man
Don’t get me wrong. I have no idea what the cause was and it could easily be military of some sort. I have no issue with discussing those options. It’s a forum for discussion.
I’m just saying with the image analysis, speculation and people making wild technical pronouncements one can easily see how a conspiracy theory evolves.
If it’s ammunition storage it certainly would be the kind of target Israel would choose. That doesn’t mean they did it. Hell, maybe Hezbollah did it because Netanyahu promised to attack them and they think it will be bad for Israel. Maybe ammonium nitrate and an accidental fire (Galveston).
The “you’re forbidden to speculate” is bullshit.
The only theory being developed ITT seems to be 100% consistent with what the Lebanese government is saying.
This is the best/most horrifying angle.
Looks like the fireworks storage was the first smoke plume (you can see them going off near the ground). But there are no fucking fireworks on earth that can make an explosion like the second one. Everyone is screaming about the shape of the shockwave, but that’s just because atmospheric conditions were such that water vapor in the air made it visible…every big explosion has a shockwave like that, you just can’t normally see it.
The reddish color of the smoke is weird to me, and the sheer size of the blast. That is not a dust explosion, which is what you get with grain storage. Going off the idea that this was an accident, the second building had to have been storing fertilizer at best, bombs (or parts of them) at worst.
Ya I’m not really getting the conspiracy vibe from most of us either. I imagine most of us see it as 90-95% accidental with of course some small possibility of it being caused by a bad actor or Israel.
That’s fair. I think people here are the type to look at it, and if there’s nothing there in a day or two that’ll be that. Obviously there will be millions of people in the world who never drop it and form a variety of conspiracy theories.
This claims to be close up footage of the fireworks fire from just before the massive explosion (I don’t think the explosion at the end of the video is the main event though):
https://twitter.com/ConflictsW/status/1290681902781861888
This is the aftermath:
It sounds like numerous buildings in the area were storing explosives and/or confiscated explosive materials. Lebanese government officials have said this and apparently the IDF has accused Hezbollah of as much before.
Holy fuck!
Destruction like that a major city port will cripple the economy. Wow.
Yeah. If fireworks can possibly do this, then fuck fireworks. We know fertilizer can do it. That wrecked Texas City in 1947.