No one is doing that.
Well yeah. Like anyone learned in grade school, zeros drop grades faster than 100s raised them.
That’s the main reason for the fall in the USA mortality recently IIRC, young people dying from opiate ODs
Nice phrase. Poetic.
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You’d prefer if they died in their 60s?
My grandma is similar to JT. She spent over 1 year in her room in a retirement home during CoVID. I think she is fine with dying but not looking for it.
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You understand that more people living to their 90’s means more people are living into their 80’s and 60’s and 40’s and so on, right?
That’s, of course, not what happened at all and I encourage you to reread those posts.
True, but it’s very hard to have a high-quality life if you’re dead.
I don’t think “It’s better for society to have longer life expectancy” is super a controversial take.
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The chart in here is pretty mind blowing:
In 1850, living from birth to age 5 increased your remaining life expectancy by almost 9 years. Now living from birth to age 70 only gains you 5 years of total life expectancy.
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It’s not but demographers do specifically try to measure length of quality life as well as length of life.
Yeah the whole topic of mortality rates and mortality improvement is actually very nuanced and interesting. I have spent alot of time on it as an actuary.
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Gonna guess that “length of quality” of life correlates pretty well with overall life expectancy.
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Yes. Its a matter of resource allocation, a dollar spent on improving low quality life is poor resource allocation.
One of the most interesting recent trends in old age mortality is that not only do richer people live longer, the gap is increasing over time. This is a pretty big public policy failure. Places with universal health care should see the gap closing over time.
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I’m going to outlive all of you.
eta: and I consider it a punishment.
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I’ve just started to realize I want to live longer. I used to think I was unafraid and ready for whatever happened. lol me.
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THANK YOU for introducing equity into this discussion. One problem with using averages at the level of nations is that it obscures differences, in particular along wealth lines (as noted) and racial lines.
Some light reading:
https://siepr.stanford.edu/research/publications/life-expectancy-inequality
and
My mom would be dead if it weren’t for heart stents. Developed by the Brooke Army Medical Center and the University of Texas Health and Science Center. Yeah socialism!
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And literally no one has done such a thing and literally everyone would agree with this statement. You can complain about how everyone else understands you all you want, but when you blatantly mischaracterize something I said, that’s nonsense. Instead of accepting that no one said what your entire point is premised on, you double down. You should consider the possibility that maybe, just maybe, you misunderstood something.
The point was that jar’s position about how it was a myth was wrong, and nothing about how it was to measure a society. You fabricated that position out of mid-air.
I just saw this on Slashdot this morning.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/only-a-third-of-americans-want-to-live-forever-with-men-more-likely-than-women-to-take-e2-80-98immortality-pill-e2-80-99/ar-AAKPVLq
Unfortunately the original article is paywalled by the great Satan Elsevier, but here’s the abstract:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890406521000219