ITV: Impeachment Television

[anon38180840]

@RiskyFlush

@anon38180840

You can’t compare them. 40% of the country isn’t watching Pepsi News telling them Coke Sucks and anyone telling you otherwise is FAKE NEWS!

I agree. That is where I’m struggling. Easy ideas from the sidelines and instant replays, but in the hot seat? This is hard.

I mean I’ve laid out some strategic ideas a few times in the last couple days in here.

@JohnnyTruant

ETA: I’m not required to have a better message to know the one that is out there is not working. It’s like that comedian said, just because I can’t pilot a helicopter doesn’t mean I can’t say look out for that fucking tree.

This, too, like it’s not like Dems realize their strategy isn’t working and keep trying new stuff. No, they are running around like nunnehi, celebrating their success. Oh, well, Rachel Maddow thinks you’re making a great case to the American people, cool for you Adam Schiff. Oh, Don Lemon agrees with you? Good for you, Pelosi.

@MattyLice

OK so Swalwell was direct and said stop spreading Russian propoganda. How can he better communicate this?

Well, he’s tweeting it into an echo chamber, for starters. Like, nothing that is said on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, in the NYT, in the WaPo, on Twitter, etc matters. You’ve either got to find ways to get your message on neutral territory (probably via advertising) or on their territory (via advertising or interviews). They should also be trying to get their message to the apathetic and apolitical.

Dems should be advertising during sports, trying to utilize social media advertising, battling to reframe the media as neutral rather than liberally biased (this means attacking them for being conservative - I’ve posted about this extensively the last few years), and trying to come up with other ways to pierce the bubble.

@MattyLice

It is not the Dems problem if people are so stupid that they need to fact check racist garbage like that.

It’s precisely the Dems problem. It’s sure as shit not the Republicans’ problem if a segment of the population is so stupid that they need to (and don’t) fact check racist garbage like that, then go vote for the Republicans as a result.

@TheDuker

nstead of just the words on the screen imagine a voiceover by Sam Elliot or Meryl Streep. And imagine a lot of quick shots of the bad guys looking bad, the good guys looking good, Ukrainian soldiers fighting, etc. all set to a moving score. It’s probably still too complicated and could be trimmed to 90 or even 60 seconds.

The point is there are plenty of people out there who still don’t get it. And I don’t see any downside to at least trying to win this messaging war.

This. 60 seconds. Badass voiceover, sound clips, ominous music over videos of the bad guys, heroic music over videos of the good guys. They admit it themselves… Mick Mulvaney soundbite, Gordon Sondland soundbite.

@RiskyFlush

This Congressman from IL is doing a good job imo. Maybe he will give us a brief consult.

He’s doing a tremendous job of breaking through to people who are reading threads of 32 tweets.

In other words, he’s doing a shitty job, or at least this job he’s doing on Twitter is pointless.

[Bigoldnit]

Heck, I’d settle for a 30-60 second video of Trump repeatedly saying he hires, “The Best People” followed by mug shots of all of the people he hired who are currently in jail of awaiting sentencing. Overlay the black and white mug shots with nothing but their title (Trump lawyer, Trump Campaign Manager, National Security Advisor, etc.) and their crime. For Flynn, maybe you use a “my generals” drop.

[wirelessgrinder]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1198738067525373952?s=21

One time dealer plz

[clovis8]

Americans are insanely irrationally patriotic. That’s where you hit them.

“These governments hate America”

Flash shots of Russian, Syrian, North Korean etc dictators saying terrible things about America

Immediately cut to shots of trump saying great things about them.

Cut to shots of all the name brand republicans saying terrible things about the same dictators.

“Trump is not America”

Play it over and over and over again.

[LikeClockwork]

He’s from the district right next to mine. My aunt and cousin did a lot of door to door campaigning on his behalf. Really cool to see their efforts pay off like this.

[geewhysee]

Forget trump forget the GOP. The dems message should be the rich hate you. They want to kill you in boiling oceans. They want to use their power to rape you, to grab you by the pussy and have you take it. They have all the money and all the power. They use the newspapers and TV stations that they own to lie to you and to get you incensened at anything that isn’t them. They’re fucking laughing at you and they think they’re safe because there’s nothing you can do about it. It’s a war. The only power we have is that there’s lots of us. So we need to exercise that advantage by voting for people who can leverage that power and destroy the scumbags who are trying to destroy us. We win now or you and your children are dead. It’s that simple and that important.

[clovis8]

Impressively bad post.

[Trolly]

Running ads to remind people Trump is a crook is utterly pointless. Did we learn nothing from 2016?

[geewhysee]

Ty. People need a simple story with a good guy and a bad guy. They need a 5 second explanation for all the shit in their lives. One that makes sense to them instantly because it reflects their lived experience. The GOPs 5 second story is “scary foriegners are taking your shit” and it’s a fucking compelling story. We actually have the truth to fight with “scary rich people are taking your shit” and that can be equally or even more compelling. Well my boss is a total ass hole and you know if I had a bunch of money and power I’d probably use it for my own benefit and fuck over everyone else thats what these rich ass holes are doing to me. I get it now.

[clovis8]

Totally agree. His followers see his grift as a good thing. Like he said, he is smart so never paid taxes.

[clovis8]

You are advocating for murdering innocent people. It’s despicable and you should seriously rethink your moral compass.

Not only are you advocating for murder you think it’s a positive message in a fucking democracy.

[geewhysee]

Kill them in the metaphorical sense.

[olink]

Lololol at ‘innocent’.

[clovis8]

Ya ya I know. We have gone through this nonsense already. No need to do so again.

[geewhysee]

What is your 5 second pitch? Orange man bad?

[RiskyFlush]

@Rugby

For example literally every dem should be laughing in Nune’s face as being up to his neck in this corruption every time he opens his mouth.

3. I honestly think this community could pump out some really good messaging that would get a wider audience and reach people.

@JohnnyTruant

What we have to do is make it a very easy to understand big deal.

So the target audience is people who don’t know what trump did. Don’t know why it matters if they did know (and being shady is not enough because all pols are shady). It has to be the dude committed a crime, tried to hide it, got caught, continued to try to cover it up and lie about it, and they know it is wrong. Everyone who defends him knows it is wrong. They are lying for a criminal for their own self interest and against American’s interest. Against your interest. It’s not business as usual, and it can’t be allowed.

@JohnnyTruant

The target audience is the tuned out. It’s really difficult to understand an audience you are not a part of.

@dbvm

Why make it so complicated? Trump used military aid as leverage to make Ukraine announce a sham investigation into his political rival. That’s it.

@Bigoldnit

in addition to having a tight elevator pitch on Ukraine, we also need to counter the general, “everything sucks, but nothing matters” background noise.

@anon38180840

You’ve either got to find ways to get your message on neutral territory (probably via advertising) or on their territory (via advertising or interviews). They should also be trying to get their message to the apathetic and apolitical.

Dems should be advertising during sports, trying to utilize social media advertising, battling to reframe the media as neutral rather than liberally biased (this means attacking them for being conservative - I’ve posted about this extensively the last few years), and trying to come up with other ways to pierce the bubble.

@anon38180840

60 seconds. Badass voiceover, sound clips, ominous music over videos of the bad guys, heroic music over videos of the good guys. They admit it themselves… Mick Mulvaney soundbite, Gordon Sondland soundbite.

@Bigoldnit

Heck, I’d settle for a 30-60 second video of Trump repeatedly saying he hires, “The Best People” followed by mug shots of all of the people he hired who are currently in jail of awaiting sentencing. Overlay the black and white mug shots with nothing but their title (Trump lawyer, Trump Campaign Manager, National Security Advisor, etc.) and their crime. For Flynn, maybe you use a “my generals” drop.

@geewhysee

It’s a war. The only power we have is that there’s lots of us. So we need to exercise that advantage by voting for people who can leverage that power and destroy the scumbags who are trying to destroy us. We win now or you and your children are dead. It’s that simple and that important.

@geewhysee

People need a simple story with a good guy and a bad guy. They need a 5 second explanation for all the shit in their lives. One that makes sense to them instantly because it reflects their lived experience. The GOPs 5 second story is “scary foriegners are taking your shit” and it’s a fucking compelling story. We actually have the truth to fight with “scary rich people are taking your shit” and that can be equally or even more compelling.

This is great. Thank you.

[RiskyFlush]

@anon38180840

He’s doing a tremendous job of breaking through to people who are reading threads of 32 tweets.

Hold on. I’m just saying it’s a good thread. The reach is up for debate, sure, but I could repurpose the messaging for all kinds of platforms.

[anon38180840]

@geewhysee

Kill them in the metaphorical sense.

I removed this from the post because it was not at all clear it was metaphorical, and in fact read an awful lot like kill them and take their stuff, given that it actually said that.

[anon38180840]

@RiskyFlush

Hold on. I’m just saying it’s a good thread. The reach is up for debate, sure, but I could repurpose the messaging for all kinds of platforms.

OK, but, like, is any one in the Democratic Party doing that?

[geewhysee]

Fair enough.