It's the Economy Stupid

Yeah that’s just not true. Come on.

Profiting off a basic human right for some extra spending money is evil.

It’s certainly not worse than employing someone.

It is. Our rich posters gonna defend the hell out it but Riverman what are you going to do when the family renting your second home can’t afford rent one month?

This shot right here is why we have to get inequality under control ASAP. Tabbaker isn’t right but views like his are going to get increasingly common as time goes on. This isn’t going to end well.

The whole “All landlords are evil” is a good example of why voting was restricted to property owners for a decent part of this country’s existence. Letting baboons like this have a say in government is a good way to turn the country into Venezuela or Zimbabwe.

“Give the vote to the people who have no property, and they will sell them to the rich, who will be able to buy them.” Gouverner Morris, author of The Preamble to the United States Constitution

Same thing you do when someone you employ doesn’t show up to work for a month because their kid is sick.

So you wouldn’t allow non-property owners to vote now or are you just saying stupid shit because you’re a stupid shit?

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Not sure I have a basic right to crash at Riverman’s house.

Black people not being allowed to own property is a pretty important thing to omit here!

Bottom left corner of that graph thing

But does he have a basic right to own it?

Points at head.

The concept of landlords/renters is a bad one, and maybe evil. That doesn’t mean every landlord is a bad person. In the same way, the concept of the American police state is certainly evil, but there are obviously individual cops who aren’t. I’m not gonna be mad at someone who wants to call all landlords or cops bad, though, because it’s a lot closer to the truth than people who want to say there’s nothing wrong with profiting from people who need a place to live purely by virtue of the fact that you have the money to buy up more housing than you need.

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Most property is owned by banks. It doesn’t really take much (sometimes any) money to buy income property and the rent you expect is what qualifies you for the loan.

When it comes to housing, landlords are simply not the problem. It’s a complex issue and yes it sucks that many property owners are scumbags but that’s not what is driving the fundamental supply/demand imbalance.

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This is pretty backwards. Housing units are very expensive to build, which means that people need to finance their occupancy of one. Short of having the government give everyone a good-for-one-house gift certificate when they turn 18, that pretty much requires there to be some form of tenancy, whether you call it a lease or mortgaged ownership or public housing.

The police state analogy is a bit off too, at least if you think rental is per se bad. The American police state is certainly bad, but the concept of police is actually very good. In other words, there can be good actors (good cops) in a bad system (American criminal justice) of implementing a good concept (state enforcement of laws). The rental case is good and bad apples (individual landlords) in a dubious system (U.S. housing policy) of a good thing (people living in houses they don’t own outright).

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I mean, what about people who build houses? Bad too? Or farmers, profiting off of people’s basic need for food? All monsters?

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Ok but those are three very different forms of tenancy, even if you admit that a mortgage is a tenancy, which it clearly is not.

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clearly adv - the sentiment expressed is believed to be true, but no particular arguments for it can be identified.

Impermanent habitation/lodging is a basic need of society, at time scales from hours (seedy motels) to days (regular hotels) to years (student housing, etc.). It seems absurd to label being a landlord unethical when there will always be people who want longish term but impermanent housing and don’t want to have the trouble and risk of buying and then selling their housing at the end. That said, we should regard housing as a human right rather than as an appreciating asset and build, no matter the whining of the NIMBYs and landlords and whoever wants to hoard wealth.

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