Says the guy who uses republican talking points
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And surely weāre better than outright fascists
If it takes this type of fighting - gatekeeping on absurd things, calling people enemies of the people, snakes, who donāt see 100% eye to eye with you - then count me out. Count me out of this movement, count me out of this site, count me out of everything. This is absolutely stupid and not coming from a place of logic or reason whatsoever.
1 or 2 at the most came out with that phase your talking about J, we never supported it to start with, itās bad yes we get itā¦ The fascist stuff is also a bad look and Iām not defending anyone in particular here, but donāt paint the forum over 1 or 2 snide comments from a troll.
It only takes 1 or 2 very loud people to dominate a discussion. And, look at the likes those posts are getting as well. It isnāt just a handful of people. Itās several. I think itās really toxic, and you are talking to someone who spends time trolling republican discussions for fun. My bar for toxic is super fucking hard to reach.
Anyway, youāre right, itās time for several people to go on ignore. I wonāt talk about it anymore. Iāve said about all I can say about it.
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Yeahā¦ Iād say thatās an extreme view towards some of the posts no doubt without looking, I admit folks over reacted, I get it.
Most all appoligiedā¦ That was good to see.
Us all having to agree with each other is not the opposite of fascism.
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Iām going to try ignoring anachronistic and Victor and see how it goes.
I almost just tapped out yesterday tbh. Walrus (GOAT) pulled me back today. I really wish we would decide to just let a few moderators take the reigns and throw out a few temp bans once in a while. āCommunity governingā just means no governing at this point, which has made these threads incredibly toxic, especially as things have been heating up lately.
Man, I have to say, ignoring the big V has made this forum so much better.
But mostly I want to mention that I appreciate the contributions made by the vast majority of posters on this forum, regardless if Iām in lockstep with them or not. This is such a valuable resource for me, so thank you!
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Itās like @Vict0ar doesnāt understand that even if Bernie wins the nomination, he needs about 68 million votes in the general election to be president and about 12 million of them will probably have been Pete supporters. But, sure, alienate 'em all. Itās cool, weāll take another decade+ of Trumpism. What could go wrong?
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Deplorable are often mocked for the ālibs were mean to me so I had to vote orangeā logic. Is this any different? The Bernie or bust Bros were certainly criticized for this way of thinking in 2016. Was Sarah Silverman responsible for losing the election bc she called them ridiculous?
To be so enlightened about an (eventually) losing political candidate but then devolve into ātake my ball and go homeā if the winner doesnāt say exactly what I need to hear, seems to mean you kinda missed the point to begin with.
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You donāt understand how fucked up it is for the majority of the country. We need to redistribute the wealth as quickly as possible.
1K unconditionally stacked with UHC would reduce stress for the majority of the country.
Saying those people will just spend it on drugs is exactly what the right says.
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Of course itās not enough but now means tested benefits are being slashed.
You have to come from a place of immense privilege to not see how it would help so many people.
Do a little research on UBI and take the emotion of your candidate not supporting it at this time because he thinks it is to extreme for the US.
The twists this thread have taken are pretty crazy.
Do some of us (myself included at times) probably take things a little far? Of course. I think many of us though see this time in our lives and American history as a do or die inflection point.
It was easy to ignore the stink of the rotting of the country or make excuses for it until Trump. He ripped the tarp off that was preventing us from seeing exactly how bad it really was under there and now we have to see the putrid stinking mess we actually live in with flies swarming everywhere on a daily basis.
My anger towards people like Pete and his supporters comes from the fact that they still refuse to see it. They still say shit like we need to come together and are in complete denial that we need a complete overhaul at all levels of government and society rather than just stirring the shit slightly differently so we have 10% less flies. They are in denial that the racists and neo-liberals ācoming togetherā IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM.
Itās hard to be nice to people who espouse those kinds of viewpoints. They literally are working against the goals of the Bernie/AOC wing of the party. They are literally working against the health and well being of my family and everyone else I know. And for what? So they can get those sweet corporate grifting bucks and get more power for themselves. Itās sick.
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Sure, but why did yang insist on getting a significant chunk of his ubi from poor people? heās not and never was on our side
You are either dishonest or ignorant.
I donāt think Yang is a bad guy but UBI as he conceived it is not good. It really is astounding to see people try attacking leftists from the left with an idea championed by Milton Friedman. Thatās why Iāve generally been negative about Yangās campaign and his supporters.
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