I think the issue is ACA ended up being so gutted by Republicans who crushed the house and senate by running against it, that it’s unusable by most people today because the insurance companies and Republicans have made it so expensive its absurd. People still don’t go to the doctor unless they absolutely have to because of how expensive it is. Its way better than nothing but it certainly isn’t great.
I feel like the public option would go the same route once the insurance companies/Republicans got their hands on it.
And a lot of people feel ACA set us back decades with M4A because the Republicans and insurance companies were able to make it so prohibitively expensive that 45% of the country absolutely hates it with a deep passion . But if we were able to get M4A passed people will finally see the light, as its extremely popular even by conservatives in every country it exists.
„How will you pay for it?“ is a legitimate question when it comes to the public option. If all the young and healthy choose private or no insurance and only the more expensive patients will enroll in the public option. This means this program won’t be able to finance itself.
I have yet to see a proposal that addresses it.
There is also the issue that if not everyone is insured on the government plan it will be a constant struggle against cutting benefits, something that would be political suicide under M4A.
The dirty secret is that employers would happily not pay for your healthcare if they didn’t have to. Once employers stop providing private insurance everyone will have M4A. Yes taxes will be higher but that was the whole idea to begin with, theoretically the total cost per person will be less and tax the rich obviously.
People who are older than, I forget the exact age, get Medicare now. Employers, such as mine, still provide secondary insurance to those that have Medicare.
I mean, if that is really the case and the existing plan I have can be made secondary to Medicare the way that this happens now then I would be fine with it. However, it is my understanding that is not what is being proposed in M4A type plans like the one Bernie has proposed.
American lawyers lean to the left of the ideological spectrum. To help place this in context, the mean DIME score among the attorney population is -0.31 compared to -0.05 for the entire population of donors. Moreover, some 62% of the sample of attorneys are positioned to the left of the midpoint between the party means for members of Congress. Morover, the modal CFscore is in the center-left. This places the average American lawyer’s ideology close to the ideology of Bill Clinton. To be more precise, the modal CFscore for American lawyers is -0.52 and Bill Clinton’s CFscore is -0.68. This confirms prior scholarship and journalism that has argued that the legal profession is liberal on balance. To our knowledge, however, this figure represents the most comprehensive picture of the ideology of American lawyers ever assembled.
There is however a (quite slight) bimodal nature to the distribution and a cluster of right-leaning attorneys has views similar to those of Mitt Romney. Not so many lawyers are true extremists, at least not in this data set.
Dems have taken over the professional classes. Basically any profession who think for a living trend Dem and the ones who don’t but still make money trend GOP.
Yeah surgeons are a special case, their set of personality traits align GOP. Meaning 1) bad at relating to people 2) better at “doing” than “thinking” (though not dumb, obviously) 3) very ambitious.
So true. Some of the creepiest weirdos I’ve ever interacted with. There’s a French Canadian spinal surgeon that she works with a lot. He keeps saying that if the US ever gets m4a he’s moving to another country that doesn’t have universal care. I haven’t had the chance to ask him where he thinks that’s going to be
My meditation teacher likes to say that there are three ways to relate to the world, doing, feeling and thinking, and that people tend to have one that is their primary mode, one that’s a backup, and one that they suck at.
As things are at the moment, the Dems have people who relate to the world via thinking and the GOP have people who relate to the world via doing (think about the emphasis on Triumph of the Will, action for action’s sake, the military etc etc) and there’s a fight over people who relate to the world via feeling. “Feeling” here suggests warm and fuzzy Marianne vibes but that’s not necessarily the case. People who get super upset over abortion relate to the world via feeling. Ditto people who feel a great sense of injustice over immigrants supposedly getting special treatment over Real Americans or whatever. You really don’t want an alliance of Doing and Feeling types where they agree to tell the Thinkers to go fuck themselves, as that describes the Nazis and most totalitarian movements in history.
A lot of the bewilderment Dems have over the behaviour of non-Dems is a failure to recognise that they simply don’t approach the world the same way. This is also the reason we need good stories with clear villains to convince the undecided. Things which logically benefit them if they think about it aren’t necessarily going to make an impact.
The problem I see with this is that you will also have to raise taxes in people who will keep their private or employer provided insurance. Many if them will not approve.
It will be a constant battle and the talking points write themselves. The GOP will make it their life’s mission to gut and defund the public option.
Your understanding is wrong. Bernie is proposing to give you a better plan than you currently have.
Why are you against better healthcare for yourself and the entire country while simultaneously saving the country $1 Trillion per year? Your position is indefensible. Your posts in here come from such a privileged and ignorant position. You’re taking a shit on every person who has had to see their family members and friends go through serious health issues or had personally gone through them themselves because you’re scared that your privileged world might be upset by someone giving you better healthcare for less money. It’s one of the dumbest possible positions someone could take. Get your head out of your ass.
Fuck this. I’m usually the leader of pro civility on here but being against Univeral Single Payer Healthcare in 2020 makes you an enemy of the people. You are pushing for the continued suffering of millions of Americans and against the betterment of 99%+ of Americans purely based on inane worries that your privilege might be hurt. These people should be treated the way you would treat someone saying we should continue locking up kids at the border.
