Individual Economics in the Age of COVID-19

Dude, you’re missing out.

Can you smoke weed and play video games all day in your underwear?

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Not a weed smoker. Not really super into video games either.

Why do you want to jerk off on the couch? That seems like a porno thing, where you masturbate in a place where it is easy for someone to walk in on you, which inevitably happens, leading to sex.

Do you really need to be streaming porn in 4K (or whatever the top-of-the-line resolution is now) on a 60±inch TV?

How do you think unemployment works?

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The point a truly free man can just jerk it in whatever room he pleases whenever he pleases.

And who the hell watches porn on a TV in 2020?

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And the wife is cool with that?

A truly free man can piss in a bottle in whatever room he wants. Still weird.

Stop couch-jerk-shaming.

Couch jerking just seems like a fetish for wanting to get caught in the act.

When you live alone?

I live alone and I still close the bathroom door when I take a dump.

I’m kind of buzzed and skipped a few dozen posts but lol suburbs. They’re the fucking worst.

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That’s better than my brother who refused to close the door even when living with people and would give you a gigantic grin when you caught him.

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Yeah I hate them with every fiber of my being, and still know they’re likely the place that would be better for me until there’s a vaccine/treatment/back to normal. Packages/Instacart to my door instead of having to go down for them, no hallways/elevators with other humans, outdoor space that’s totally mine with grass and such.

If I’m considering it, urban real estate and apartments are fucked.

I’m currently in Chapter 8, the plan is to finish the book today, craft an e-mail, post it in here for feedback, and send it tomorrow morning. It’ll largely be based on the suggestions from @chupacabre and @boredsocial.

What do you guys think of the merit of pairing the pandemic/economy and “How am I supposed to do that?” with an offer of like 40-50% of my current rent, as opposed to just leaving the offer out and trying to get them to negotiate against themselves before I come in with an offer?

Like if they offer $3,800 in an attempt to calibrate me, and I offer $1,400, they’re going to be calibrated to trying to keep me in the range of $2,600, and it may be tough to get them below my current rent. If they offer $3,800, then drop it to $3,300, and then I counter $1,400, aren’t I establishing a better range for myself?

Or is the $1,400 less offensive in the context of their bullshit offer, whereas they’ll feel like $3,300 is good faith and my offer is not at that point?

Whenever I make that offer, I plan to qualify it with something about checking market rates in the neighborhood and in other places I’m considering, hoping to get them to ask where else I’m looking so I can let them know moving out of the city all together is an option and they’re competing against houses in the $1,400 to $1,600 a month range.

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So the real goal here is just to find out what their lowest offer is going to be. With people like this you get absolutely nothing for trying to make them happy, because they’re never happy.

I like responding to the super high offer with a super low offer that has no chance of being accepted. It’s generally a bad thing when you offer someone something and they snap take it lol. Few things irritate me as much as knowing that I definitely definitely definitely left probably a bunch of money on the table.

Once you know their bottom number you can do whatever you want with that information. I will be 0% surprised when these guys bottom number isn’t remotely in contact with reality. If it was in contact with reality your building wouldn’t have any vacancies.

I honestly think your chances of making a good decision AND not shopping around are pretty low. That’s because I think you’re moving 90% of the time here. Your current place wants to be paid for you to not have to move, and the next place wants to pay you to move there. That’s why your current place gave you that fat discount when you moved in.

And normally I’m all for paying to not move. I usually stay most places 2-3 years so far through 7-8 places I’ve lived as an adult. A good home environment is worth a lot and every move is a risk. At the same time these guys aren’t going to let you stay unless you accept their version of reality. That’s not generally a deal I’m willing to do for meaningful amounts of money.

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I agree with this approach 100%. Use the FBI haggling bracketing approach from there. I forget what he calls it but it is found in the haggling chapter IIRC.

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Then I don’t have AA… Cause I would prefer not to move. If it’s clear I can’t get a reasonable price, I might try to get a short-term extension at my current rate and try again in a few months when reality has either smacked them upside the head or it’s become clear that I’ll be able to enjoy the amenities of the complex and the neighborhood in 2021.

You mean responding with a range? I think I’m just getting to the haggling section.

I mean you have AA because you can probably get an apartment three blocks over for half the money in two months. They are utterly fucked if the time frame is by september.

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That’s true, although I can’t go last minute and risk not having a place, and I also don’t want a place three blocks over that’s not as nice, doesn’t have the (currently worthless) amenities, etc. But I can probably get a place in the suburbs for half as much as I’m currently paying and try to negotiate like a 6 month lease to give myself options. Just a lot of moving/hassle.

Like I have all the leverage, but if they’re irrational and won’t give me a fair price, it’s going to be mutually assured destruction.