I’ve been wondering which of our new users was goofyballer. And now I know. My trap worked! ;)
Some weird pretzel logic you got going there where it’s the job of the people who question spending money to prove that it’s not working, and not the job of the people spending money to prove that it’s doing anything. Because the general word on the street, from people who care and know a lot more than liberals living in the suburbs, is things are real real bad right now.
There’s also a lot of addicts who don’t want help. They like being addicts. A program that just assumes every addict hates being an addict and desperately wants help isn’t addressing a big chunk of the problem imo.
Young people migrate to places like LA, SF, Portland, Seattle, because they’d rather be homeless and on drugs in SF than in an apartment in Cleveland. I’ve met some of them when I lived in SF. I’m not sure how throwing money at that subset is helping. If you housed every single one of them, a new batch would show up the next day.
One point with homelessness is that it’s going to take work at the national level. Cities are already paying for bus tickets to ship homeless to other cities so if any city does well with homelessness other cities will just ship their homeless there, overwhelming the city’s resources.
Another point is that public spaces do need to be made safe so having a drunk tank or something similar needs to happen. But the reactionary position never gets past kicking the homeless and the drug users out of public spaces so it’s like bucketing water out of ship with a leak. It’s never going to fix the problem, or even pretend to fix the problem.
Don’t get me wrong, I also think working class people deserve much more government assistance than they’re getting as well. Nobody making less than some CPI standardized wage putting them in the lower middle class should pay any taxes. They should be getting credits back, if anything. Helping them and the homeless aren’t mutually exclusive propositions if you’re willing to tax the shit out of companies, and individuals making some CPI standardized wage putting them above upper middle class (perhaps $300k or so individual income in LA)
Well, if the replies on this Reddit thread are any indication, we are fucked as a nation, and even as a species. This is on reddit, in San Diego. Reddit is full of liberal/lefties…except, apparently on this issue, everyone turns into a full-blown Nazi.
Same thing in LA, which is more “liberal” than SD to begin with. Rick Caruso could easily have become mayor if he had gone full “send them to camps in the desert”.
The real solution is making housing affordable not creating squatting communities in green areas. The former cuts to the real problem causing the issue. The latter is a bandaid that doesn’t make any structural changes.
I think it was someone on here who posted the monkey analogy, but it’s perfect.
If a monkey hoards all the bananas while others in the group are starving then scientists will study that monkey to find out wtf is wrong with it. If a human does the same, we put them on the cover of Forbes Magazine.
That we have multi-millionaires, billionaires, while so many people are struggling just to stay alive is mind-boggling to me. Humans really are a fucked up species.
Just tax anything over $10 million/year in NYC at 95% (and lower th3 $10 milly figure in lower COL areas), EZ game.
All he had to say to make Ron withdraw was that he was going to put the tent cities next to the rich city liberals and away from true gun-toting Americans!
Millions of people in prison in the US largely out in rural areas. Hundreds of thousands of migrants detained, mostly in rural areas. A few hundred thousand people in rural prison/shelters would hardly cause a ripple and would soon have a large lobby of corporations building and managing them and towns and cities fighting for that tax money and those jerbs.