Homelessness

You don’t have to be a Boomer to otherwise the homeless. I don’t know if this shit even belongs in the GOP thread.

the reason why new batches of homeless appear in cities like SF/LA/Portland/Seattle is because there are no housing programs like we are talking about in areas where the homeless are displaced. cities do provide more services, so a lot of homeless end up here, next to VA, shelters, etc. but they come from all over, rural and small urban towns. sometimes gop mayors even buy them a bus ticket to liberal cities.

it’s clear that local governments can be easily overwhelmed by a national problem. so the way to solve is by creating safety nets everywhere, rather than concentrating unhoused in enclaves

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California should just invite more homeless people until property values start going down.

Maybe the dems thread?

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Somebody that has been a victim of violent crime is going to be more likely to support police brutality (well unless the initial violent crime was police brutality.) Somebody that gets solicited multiple times for money a day, or finds human feces outside their front door, or doesn’t know if they should call emergency services for the woman passed out on the sidewalk near their place might me less sensitive to the homeless. But I’m kinda surprised too by his takes.

SF tried this, but too many McCloskeys in their ranks.

I’m more sympathetic to the homeless, the more I see them on the street asking for money.

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If one is intellectually incurious and decided they can just “trust” an “activist” who articulates one’s reactionary emotions, defying the mountains of evidence and experience accumulated by the 99% of activists who know how awful the guy is

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To put another way, I’ll amend the end of this statement

To “is not a victim.”

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https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/1614720502114779137?s=46&t=vOYqX0e_ivCqZ3v-hvTXUA

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonnyc/status/1614721054852669441?s=46&t=vOYqX0e_ivCqZ3v-hvTXUA

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Nonsense.

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What I really hate about the homeless is how the sight of them spoils my feelings of immense self-satisfaction when driving home from The French Laundry.

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When is the last time you actually helped a homeless person?

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You didn’t ask me but I do give money to homeless people in Toronto when I walk by them and I have it (which isn’t often because I am not in the habit of carrying cash).

I don’t feel too critical if people don’t directly help homeless people though. It is so obviously a complex, multi factor problem in need of a complex, multi factor policy solution. If people actively dump on homeless people as lazy bums then I don’t have much tolerance for that. If someone says they’re not going to put an exceptional individual effort into trying to help people that are clearly the victims of systemic failures then I am not going to get on my high horse on a soap box about that.

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In Columbus Ohio there is a development known as the “Arena District.” When I lived there in the 90s that area was then comprised of the former State Penitentiary, which had closed decades earlier and was left to rot. It was just outside the business district and close to a couple of shelter services and many homeless people would set up camp in some of the abandoned buildings. Technically this was trespassing of course, and so a couple of times per year the police would go in and send people to jail for sleeping in prison.

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If one is going to use the as pawns in discussion then it is an extremely fair question.

I also think Suzzer was just trying to inject some pragmatism into the conversation.

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I agree it’s a fair question.

Would only be fair that i mention that they are used as pawns in political discussion by many here, including myself.

I do wonder what most people would do if a homeless person knocked on their door and asked for help.

Depends on what “help” means, and also highly depends on whether the occupant has children.