2). He’s right
This really isn’t complicated. The GOP is groupthink. The Democrats are a big tent. Everyone has their pet issues, many of which are mutually exclusive and popular in some areas and unpopular in others.
This thread articulates my larger point:
https://twitter.com/teri_kanefield/status/1325591306421202944?s=21
Mainstream Dem narratives are trying to incorporate a big tent.
Mainstream GOP narrative is to point to AOC who proposes scary drastic change and figure most people are more afraid of losing what they have now than they are hopeful to improve things, especially and often for “other people”
What we are seeing is that Dems were successful in creating a big enough tent to beat Donald but that the GOP was successful in stealing people away by painting the entire party the same shade as AOC.
No matter how much you try to blame AOC for the GOP calling us socialists it won’t be true. They were doing it before she was born and to great success.
So blaming progressives who won for house losses is totally not divisive but her pointing out that they lost because they ran bad campaigns and she offered to help is the real problem? Jlawokay.gif
Jfc man this is how these 2 parties have behaved since the 1920s. They called FDR a socialist and every dem president or candidate since. Reality has nothing to do with it. They’ll always have a socialist bogeyman, well always have a fascist one.
Except we never call them fascists because it’s rude lol. Only places like here.
The problem with the dems big tent is it has nothing inside it. It’s a beautiful rainbow of diversity and inclusion from the outside but it’s totally bare within. AOC is trying to fill the tent with a bit of health care here some workers rights there so there’s something to keep people coming back.
The republican tent is a dingy little thing but inside there’s Cruz the geek biting the head off a live chicken. There’s bearded lady G, and there’s carnival barker trump at the centre of the ring. All kinds of freaks and fun things to do like the make a lib cry game, the Q House of mirrors. If all dems are offering is the multicoloured outside of the tent with no substance inside plenty of people are going to be drawn to the freakshow.
Maybe I’m just a bit behind here, but I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Obama was further right than Nixon.
“15 new posts in the AOC thread. Let’s see who she’s slaying now!”
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Seriously just dumbass centrists posting dumbass centrist takes. We didn’t even start this round of party infighting. That was two dumbass centrists whining to the Washington Post about how AOC cost them their election… and not because they spent an astronomical amount of money on TV and only used digital to raise more money from their supporters for TV.
Meanwhile in the corporate world nobody has gotten in trouble for cutting the TV budget and shifting it to digital in a long time… in fact it’s been a cheat code to getting promoted and quite a few eager young capitalists have made those ridiculous 30 under 30 lists by just punching the code in over and over again.
There was a time we would call them cryptonazis on network tv until they threatened to punch you in the face.
I’m not blaming AOC. She’s just the new picture they use. I think you’re misunderstanding my point. I’m not pro-Spanberger or whoever that was attacking AOC. I think she was wrong.
I also think AOC attacking Project Lincoln is wrong for essentially the same reasons. That’s not how big tent party politics can work and it gifts the victories to Republicans moving forward
Like it or not there’s going to be a fight for what it means to be a Democrat between the people under 45 who strongly support AOC’s political vision and the older people who still wake up screaming in the middle of the night about 1984.
They are going to call every single one of our candidates a socialist whether they are a socialist or not. The ‘I’m not a socialist’ argument does not work and has never worked. It’s why the GOP loves to call us socialists. It’s the ‘when did you stop beating your wife’ of politics. It turns out the right answer in this context is to say ‘I stopped beating my wife when she stopped trying to kill me with a fucking knife dude’.
AOC and her ilk won a lot of races in districts that skew red this cycle. If the Democrats want to then turn around and blame her for their own failures they’re the problem full stop and AOC is in a rare spot where tactics, morals, and ethics agree she needs to dog walk them for it. If she doesn’t how will they learn?
You want less infighting in the party and I want to primary every single Democrat that didn’t use digital properly. Every. Single. One. Because it will work and because they are massive leaks that need to be plugged. They’re going extinct and the only question is whether that will be because we took care of them ourselves or because the GOP did.
You can’t have an effective organization without quality control. Trashing an order and remaking it because it’s nowhere near good enough is the sign of a good restaurant not a bad one.
I’m called a socialist all the time. Usually I ignore it. Sometimes I ask them to define socialism, and they quickly shut up.
I support GND. I support raising the minimum wage (I think $15 would be better locally mandated but quibbles). I support M4A.
The question is how we get there. I think AOC is smart and charismatic and has largely the right ideas. I’d love to see her as President one day. That said, I don’t think attacking others inside the tent (she didn’t throw the first stone to be sure but she’s throwing them now) is anything but a gift to the autocrats looking to divide us and conquer. I don’t think that’s how we get to M4A or GND.
I didn’t blame AOC for Republicans calling us socialists. They’re stupid brainwashed morons that almost universally define socialism as just bad so that’s why it shifts so freely to Biden and other laughable targets.
I hope that clarifies.
She needs to rock the people who threw that first stone to death. They threw their campaigns as hard as they could and then tried to gin up a false narrative about how it was AOC’s fault. They’re more dangerous than the GOP is because they are gifting EV to the GOP in ways the GOP can’t do for themselves. I hope that clarifies as well.
We have to have quality control. This is what that looks like.
Criticize in private and praise in public is a good strategy… until the other person blames you in public in the newspaper of record. Then it’s time for a public execution to demonstrate why you don’t do that. A little fear goes a long way with spineless career politicians. Just look at what Trump has achieved with it.
Project Lincoln is not in the tent. The guy who learned at the knee of Lee Atwater and the genius who brought you John Roberts and Sara Palin are not in the fucking tent jfc does nobody remember a goddam thing?
And they know it, you fucking rubes.
Seriously they are exactly the kind of tapeworm I’d like to inflict on the right. Every dollar anyone gave them was wasted. They stole all of it except what they needed to make more videos to serve you, the donors.
I generally like you and your posting, but this is a ridiculous take. The timing of the criticism matters, it is not at all inconsistent to tell people to shut the fuck up during the election and then, once the election is over, go back to criticizing the Dem establishment. In fact it’s explicitly whatRiverman and the rest of us were saying back then.
Call them out when they do that shit again then. For now they’re helping flip the senate stop with the infighting
I’m more worried about the digital mistakes being repeated in GA than I am about marginal votes gains and losses from infighting.
This is why every good organization does quality control. When people aren’t measuring up they get replaced. It’s a bit heartless, but I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the places I’ve worked that fired people too often were never anywhere near as bad as the places that never fired anyone. In the latter case the good employees get pushed out by the shitty ones… which is what they’re trying to do here.
