It’s not going to end dude, that’s why its scary. Even after they completely lock in control. Someone like Tucker and the Republican party will still need an enemy, so will the voters. They will continue to make up stories about libs being evil, plotting, the reason shit still isn’t getting better. Punishing the liberals will be the red meat since their lives will not only get better, they will get worse.
Once they have full control, it will be time to punish liberals. They will probably pass laws giving police even more leeway
Our only hope is liberal states mostly tell them to fuck off
There are white nationaiists and then there are the run-of-the-mill MAGA morons. This is a bigger group, and they won’t willingly say they are racist, yet will go along with virtually every racist thing that the White Nationalists espouse. They love to point out that there are “black racists” out there, because that seems to justify their own racism, but they won’t admit that directly. They don’t see themselves as evil either. I don’t see how we recover from this mindset.
Seize political power and use it. I think that decent Americans are making the same mistake that decent Germans made in the 1930s, they’re trying to wrangle with the fascist racist nationalists and come to some sort of complicated balance that is unpleasant but palatable. And they’re getting steam rolled. There is no road to persuading the deplorables to go back to supporting a liberal democracy. Right now the only political force opposing the deplorables is the Dems, and the Dems will not walk the necessary road. The necessary road is to force the deplorables to comply with basic human dignity and responsibility and when they complain use the “fuck you, that’s why” magic bullet on THEM for once. But the Dems won’t do it.
Contemporary American conservatives often say two contradictory things within the same sentence. It’s all word salad mumbo jumbo to force reasonable people to waste all their time “debunking” their idiotic ramblings instead of working on actually making the country work better. And liberals CAN NOT STOP taking the bait. This moronic comment by an 18 year old will kick off 10,000 “news” articles reporting what he said and 1,000 commentary pieces on “what does it all mean”. Meanwhile 95% of the American population has no idea what is going on in their own country just outside the very limited horizons in which they live their lives.
The NRA grift is well over. The responsible gun owner thing doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s maybe like 5% of the movement. It’s full blown fascist racist BLM are terrorists movement now.
I think Kyle genuinely doesn’t want to be hated by half the country. I dunno, I’m relieved he isn’t going for the auth right hero grift like I expected and 95% of the type of larpers would do in his position.
The other possibility is his lawyer told him to say this because the civil suites already started and those I can easily see him getting wrecked in and maybe they think this helps him there. Still if he continued the auth right hero aspect he could easily have had them pay for his damages plus a ton of money on top. Never needed to work a day in his life.
I think its way too early to spike the football on this. He’s just 18 and there’s no evidence that he’s very smart. What happens when people still hate him, and they will, after his media tour where he transparently comes across as ignorant? His talking points are going to come across as “some of my best friends are black” platitudes mixed with guns rights falsehoods. I would expect a huge reactionary swing the other way, with his deplorable influences whispering in his ear saying “See? No matter what you do they hate you just because you’re a white man! We’re the most oppressed group in the country!” Wait until he ends up on Joe Rogan, it will be an orgy of toxic masculinity and ignorance.
that’s all true, but I’m glad he is at least trying to resist going straight for auth right hero. He isn’t spiking the football and gloating. It would have been super easy for him to do that and be a hero to the right and I’m sure a ton of people were whispering that into his ear and he resisted it for now.
Honestly I can almost emphasize with him eventually turning to the auth right crowd after everyone continues to hate him. What is a young person expected to do when everyone from one side hates him, mocks him and shits on him after trying his best to show he isn’t what they think he is, and the other is offering him friendship and fraternity?
Someone on here once linked to an r/asktrumper (or similar name) post whose top comment went something like, “Right and wrong don’t matter, only winning.” I feel like this is even worse, ie a lot of them do know they’re evil and simply don’t care.
But yeah, most of the people committing atrocities in the past were merely acting out God’s Will. It’s the same as it ever was: people just do whatever they want and, if they feel like giving a justification, they generate one randomly and go with it. When you have the power and no one can hold you accountable, the justification doesn’t have to make sense or be believable, you can just troll. Like when whoever it was said something like, “We bombed Cambodia because we had all these extra bombs lying around and nowhere to drop them.”
Along those lines, I remember when one of the Jan 6’ers was being interviewed immediately after the fact. He actually admitted that the election was probably legitimate, but said that many of the Biden voters shouldn’t really be allowed to vote because they’re too uneducated etc.
Interestingly, this attitude can actually be exploited to get people out of the Trump/QAnon cult. The best advice on getting people out of cults is to talk to them about how the cult is not delivering on promises to make their lives better. A lot of Trumpy idiots are getting short term dopamine hit feedback to reinforce their behavior, but if they step back and look at their lives overall they will have often find things have gotten worse between strained relationships to outright job loss or even the death of a loved one from Covid. This doesn’t feel like winning, if you can get them to think about it.
