Elon Space Karen Musk is a fraud - or a visionary like Andrew Yang?

Use this thread to discuss the many ways this is true.


I’m Pickle Elonnnnnnn


His business model of “charge people $200k to die on Mars” seems HIGHLY suspect on multiple fronts.

I like that his companies make rockets and electric cars, both of which are pretty cool. I hope those companies succeed because I want those industries to succeed.



What if an Epic Bacon Dad had enough money to cosplay as Tony Stark

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Elon Musk’s father owned an emerald mine.

His brother (partner in the first thing that made them a lot of money) started a thing building community gardens for kids.



Don’t forget the apartheid!

And then he got lucky that PayPal bought his startup and then EBay bought PayPal. And then he bought Tesla as a vanity project and made shittier products than before and turned the factory into a mess of OSHA violations. What a genius! Smartest man who ever lived!

Musk joined Tesla in 2004 and they produced their first car in 2008.

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Which musk brother do you prefer?


Didn’t know Elon didn’t found Tesla.

There were three employees when he joined and he finagled the right to call himself a founder.

What did they have at that point? Like engineers with plans for the car or just raising money?

I don’t know

We are honestly lucky Musk never tried running for some kind of office,

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Delete it. Now. Just delete it. No giving ideas.


Title is obviously true and has been obvious for years. It is still hilarious to think back on a time not so long ago when Musk and Bezos were both super popular with the liberal side.

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Hahaha there’s no way in hell he would submit himself to that kind of scrutiny

I wish I was a fraud. Seems to be working out well for him.

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Elon is quite possibly the best fund raiser ever. Never have I ever seen anyone so gifted at bullshitting investors into making lolawful bets.

The greatest irony about Tesla is that it’s a great example of thinking too small. It could have been scaled much faster and much grander as the a truly gigantic battery conglomerate. The whole company should literally just be a series of giga factories pumping out batteries for every application imaginable at incredible scale… but instead he decides to make the cars too for some reason.

The cars aren’t the interesting part. The batteries are. The world needs soooooo many batteries.

But that wouldn’t be as fun for Elon as making car models that spell out S3XY. No middle of the supply chain for him. He’s gotta make the cars too (even though there are several companies that have been doing this relatively difficult manufacturing task for a hundred years at this point).