Remember when Trump’s lawyers argued there was no need to impeach Trump because obviously the legal system can deal with him, then McConell and every MAGA fuck said they can’t possibly vote to impeach because the obviously proper remedy is the court.
Fast forward to Thursday when 6/9 MAGA fucks on SCOTUS are baffled how you could ever charge a former president if democracy will survive.
lol America. The legal system is utterly valueless.
lol consequences crowd.
Claiming the legal system is valueless because there is a small chance one guy might get away with it when hundreds of people, most of whom are poor, get away with it every day is weird.
Do you have some sort of Snapchat streak with this?
Not ever going to stop reminding the consequences crowd that they are partly responsible for what is happening. The faith-based religious belief the legal system will fix this, so everyone can just sit back and chill, is a huge reason why America is drawing very live to a dictatorship. No amount of blatantly obvious evidence to the contrary, like what I just posted, phases them. It’s always just, everyone can chill. No need to do anything. The train isn’t going to crush us all. Obviously at some point some lawyer or SCOTUS is going to save us all.
Remember everyone, this is all working perfectly, and at a lightning pace, according to iron. Everything is just hunky dory.
Jesus Christ, justices on the Supreme Court spent two hours literally saying it was valueless against a president (they obviously mean only Trump). I guess at this point I just have to assume you are not paying any attention and don’t know what is actually happening.
lol, man, you need to take a seriously long break from the internet. You’ve built this “consequences crowd” into a caricature that’s about as realistic as Donald Trump’s love for Melania. No one on here is responsible for how the legal system treats obscenely wealthy people who lack any sense of shame just as your increasingly hyperbolic posts aren’t doing shit to fix the problem.
I am overly saddened and angered by people here still falling for “the system will save us” because they are surrounded with mountains of data to the contrary. I can sort of forgive the average low information citizen. Here it just seems like wilful ignorance that borders on complacency.
That said, I think you are right. I need to go back on my ignore Trump rule for awhile to remain sane. Think I’ll stick to posting on the non political forums for a while and just sit back and watch it burn I guess.
I sure hope history shows I was being hyperbolic.
But it’s like three people here. That’s only a crowd idiomatically.
Fair point. I have gotten too focused on them as a way to vent my growing frustration as I see it all getting so much worse every week. As I said in the previous post, I am taking a mental break from all things trump.
My apologies for using the forum as a way to scream into the void. It’s obviously not helpful or adding value to other posters.
It’s possible to believe that Donald Trump is facing consequences that are not insubstantial, but also that are not adequate punishment for what he has done. Yet if Trump had the least bit of savvy and self-control, he wouldn’t have even had to go through any of this. If he had learned to just shut the fuck up every now and then, he probably wouldn’t even be in court right now.
Many of us already knew that the legal system was horribly biased in favor of wealthy and otherwise connected people. Clovis seems to be discovering this for the first time with Donald Trump and he thinks this is some unique failing on the US Justice system, lol.
I think it’s a little more unique than you giving credit, the US legal/political system does seem genuinely not prepared for a criminal president / former president that still has widespread support of their party.
One megatrend globally is that the Western world run by boomers has become so accustomed to mostly uninterupted prosperity that the institutions are comfortable passing the buck on things because “do basically nothing and hope nothing changes” has been a WINNING governance strategy for decades. The institutions and the people that run them are wholly unprepared to confront an actual crisis because they have never faced anything that they perceive as a crisis. There’s a ton of hubris at the top, and the hubris creates vulnerability.
As typical, mosdef articulated the point much better than I could, but I’d add that the US’s flaws get way more attention than other countries’ flaws in large part because the US is way more consequential than, like, Canada or Costa Rica. In addition to the attention there is naturally going to be a lot more money and effort that is poured into influencing US political and legal outcomes.
Trump has faced a ton of consequences, they just aren’t enough of a consequence for the “he’s still got both hands? NO CONSEQUENCES!” crowd. He is being forced to spend time in court where he is being constantly humiliated by randos. He is on the hook for half a billion dollars in New York and is unable to come up with a mere 175 million for that bond. He’s paid 91 million to appeal the defamation case, which he’s lost twice. And he has Jimmy Kimmel living rent free in his head. Just because these aren’t “enough” for you doesn’t mean they are nothing.
Clovis has become a tired parody, especially since he still believes not only that there is an “American culture,” but that he’s uniquely positioned to offer nuanced takes based on following the MSM.
When “he is having his time wasted” in on your list of consequences, then yeah those of us with little to no faith in the justice system are not going to be satisfied.
If it will make anybody feel better how about we say “lol consequences” instead of “no consequences”.
He is one of the richest people in the world and he doesn’t get to do as he pleases. I bet that chaps his ass as much as the money does. Let’s not forget the amount of money he has spent on lawyers for all this crap too. Even if it wasn’t “his” money, it was money that he controlled and instead of getting to spend it on gold plated toilets he had to spend it on dumb lawyers. We’re also seeing people on the right start to get scared about his numbers, which is new and exciting. I’ll admit, I wish Trump came out looking worse than the legal system did in all this, but I don’t think he’s getting out of this unscathed.
Legal question: could Trump fire his lawyers (or get them to quit) in the middle of the case and cause a mistrial?
I read somewhere that the judge could make his current lawyers show up until he gets new lawyers or prevent it altogether. So I think the answer is no
If that worked, wouldn’t every defendant do that? But for him, I suppose SCOTUS will allow it.