warren might have won the nomination, but it was never going to be as a people-powered anti-corruption, healthcare as a right candidate
she showed her true colors at the end taking superpac money and telling people that medicare for all couldn’t happen until years down the line.
i’m glad she isn’t the left’s standard bearer
Wtf no? Biden is terrible. I’m saying the left uniting around a candidate that the party told you they weren’t going to let win and who had no path to winning over the moderate wing of the party was insane and is why we got stuck with a terrible candidate like Biden.
I’ve laid out my case very clearly, and I’m sorry that you’re going to be stuck learning nothing from this and trying to make up statements I’ve never said to make yourself feel better.
Lol “pushing conversations” that’s what you all are going to hang your hat on?
If Bernie wants to push conversations, he doesn’t need to do that from the Senate. Get out of the way and let some leftist who is actually effective at legislating take the seat.
The #1 reason Zombie Biden won is that the corrupt corporate media rigged the game for him. They found every which way to call Bernie a Communist 24/7 in the week leading up to Super Tuesday and blacked out Bernie’s rallies/messages (which they refused to do for Trump’s sicko racist rallies). They ignored the clear fact that Biden, who was as dumb as a box of rocks to begin w/, had lost the last of his marbles. Quite the opposite, they painted Biden’s corpse as the White Knight to stop the Communist Menance.
The #2 reason is that all the rest of the corrupt D candidates spring boarded off the media’s message, cut back room deals w/ each other and sold themselves as the superteam to stop the Communist Menance.
And the #3 reason Bernie lost, is that the American Public is dumber than a box of rocks, aka dumber than Joe Biden, and fell for the corrupt media and Ds scheme.
Bottom line is you keep giving people a choice to help themselves and elect a non-corrupt candidate doing everything they can to help the people, and if they are too stupid too take it then they deserve what they get. One day they wise up and save themselves, or they allow themselves to keep getting fucked. Their choice.
Offering different flavors of corrupt like your proven craven, repeat sociopathic liar Liz is like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Doesn’t do a damn thing.
Regarding reason #2, the blame there lies with Bernie. If he had built an actually coalition with jv the Dem Party, he could have (and should have) formed alliances with other party members. That’s basic politics, not some evil, underhanded thing,
Nah, Klobochar, GOPete and the rest of the lot putting up Biden’s demented corpse against Trump for their own selfish bribes was evil and is going to cost the country dearly. And it’s being magnified 100x w/ the Coronavirus and Biden unable to even form coherent sentences to respond to Trump’s epic fuck up of the situation.
And here is a thought, maybe bribing support w/ cabinet spots from ghouls who giddily shout “HOW YA GONNA PAY FOR IT!!!” all day, everyday to giving people health care and then are down w/ giving a cool trillion to bail out businesses that overleveraged themselves isn’t compatible with what Bernie was trying to accomplish for the American people.
Unlike Joe, whose goals #1, 2 and 3 were accomplishing his boyhood dream of becoming President. And if he happened to do some good along the way, well that’s great.
I don’t know what to tell you, it seems like your issue is more with the problems of governance in a democratic society where not everyone agrees on policy solutions to big problems. Y’all are really far up Bernie’s ass if you can’t hold him responsible for his failure to understand that you need support from more than leftist twitter in order to have a viable shot at the Presidency. The message that literally every other politician and person in the Democratic Party is hopelessly corrupt or too stupid to know what’s good for them is not a winning strategy. Simple things like getting other politicians to like you and throw their support behind you is not Inherently shady or corrupt, either. Jesus.
But everyone else is corrupt, and people are easily manipulated by mass media, don’t know what else to tell you.
If this $2 trillion bailout necessitated by corporate recklessness doesn’t open your eyes that the “HOW YA GONNA PAY FOR IT!” was a disgusting manipulation by the D establishment to deceive people that the richest nation on Earth can’t afford healthcare for its people then don’t know what to tell you.
And I don’t give a shit at the end of the day. I do have a great deal of empathy towards people when my misanthropy isn’t getting the better of me but fundamentally this is not my fight.
This bailout is going to help me personally a great deal, my chances of being laid off from my well paid job have gone down dramatically because of the corruption of the D party. If that is what people want to keep voting for then so be it.
But I’m not going to engage in the soft bigotry of low expectations by being untruthful and telling people that electing a lying sociopath like Warren is going to fundamentally change this extremely unfair situation when that is a flat out lie. AOC/Bernie types or go the fuck home.
it’s just locker room talk imo.
Just the assumption of the powerful that they can take anything they want from those who are nothing. I mean he’s right. She is nothing to him. He’s gonna coast to the dem nom and maybe to the presidency (if he hasn’t died already). She has to go on soundcloud.
https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1242912632186613760
god damn Warren is so fucking effective dudes
This thread was muted for me accidentally. Second time that’s happened that I’ve noticed. I guess it happens when I’m scrolling on my phone.
Anyway, looks like Biden is a psychopath…shocker.
Biden done debating Bernie.
I have long thought there will not be 2020 Presidential debates, just didn’t think it would be Creepy Joe dropping out!
I guess I saw Cuomo with a non-zero chance of being the Democratic nominee on some betting site. Is there any chance that Biden secures a majority of the delegates and then essentially drafts Cuomo to take over for him, grabbing the delegates and getting the nomination? If global pandemics can be a thing during an election year, this doesn’t seem that farfetched does it?