# COVID-19: Chapter 8 - Ongoing source of viral information, and a little fun **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & News\ **Created:** [April 14, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761 "2021-04-14T10:43:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![mosdef](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/mosdef/32/19716_2.png) [@mosdef](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/mosdef)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/642 "2021-04-21T13:58:16Z")
Possibly vaccines work, but also possibly Covid was a scam all along. Think about it! ---
**Author:** ![Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/danspartan/32/30396_2.png) [@Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Danspartan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/643 "2021-04-21T14:13:04Z")
An Omaha Public School district program that partnered with the University of Nebraska Medical Center, OPS PROTECTS, reported that infection rates in schools involved in the first phase of the pilot program were two-and-a-half times higher for staff and almost six times higher for students than the data being reported through routine self-initiated tests and reporting. [https://twitter.com/rzeskey/status/1384847938107621379?s=21](https://twitter.com/rzeskey/status/1384847938107621379?s=21) ---
**Author:** ![j8i3h289dn3x7](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@j8i3h289dn3x7](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/j8i3h289dn3x7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/645 "2021-04-21T14:55:30Z")
That is quite the exponential curve. ---
**Author:** ![j8i3h289dn3x7](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/76d3ee/32.png) [@j8i3h289dn3x7](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/j8i3h289dn3x7)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/646 "2021-04-21T14:55:55Z")
> [@CaffeineNeeded](#): > > Remember being so confused as to why India wasn’t having problems. Still wondering why that first wave didn’t take off They did real lockdowns and stuff the first time. ---
**Author:** ![FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/funcrusherplus/32/249765_2.png) [@FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/FuncrusherPlus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/647 "2021-04-21T15:18:05Z")
Legend has it a friend of a friend was driving a volkswagon van across country sometime in the early 70’s. Pulled over by a cop who profiles him and knows to look in the hidden compartment under the driver’s (?) seat. There is a bag of crystallized lsd. The officer finger tests it without question. Guy takes the cops weapons and leaves. Looking back I hope that story was embellished or made up since the vast majority of humans don’t deserve that fate. Reminds me of the CIA and MK Ultra . ---
**Author:** ![MysteryConman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/mysteryconman/32/82482_2.png) [@MysteryConman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/MysteryConman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 3:27pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/648 "2021-04-21T15:27:04Z")
Got my first jab of Moderna yesterday. My left arm feels like I was on the losing end of an epic game of Slug Bug. Other than that, no issues. ---
**Author:** ![suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/suzzer99/32/132432_2.png) [@suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/suzzer99)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/650 "2021-04-21T16:02:39Z")
LSD takes at least 30 minutes to kick in. ---
**Author:** ![FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/funcrusherplus/32/249765_2.png) [@FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/FuncrusherPlus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/651 "2021-04-21T16:03:08Z")
Wat CrYstallized. I don’t know the math but I would estimate he, at minimum, dosed a couple thousand hits at once. ---
**Author:** ![bobman0330](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@bobman0330](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/bobman0330)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:12pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/652 "2021-04-21T16:12:55Z")
Paper is here, I think: > **[2021.04.14.21255036v1.full.pdf](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.14.21255036v1.full.pdf)** > > 2.09 MB ---
**Author:** ![otatop](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/otatop/32/196269_2.png) [@otatop](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/otatop)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/653 "2021-04-21T16:47:24Z")
> **[The U.S. awarded a firm up to $1.3 billion to make syringes. Where are they?](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/trump-administration-awarded-firm-1-3-billion-make-covid-vaccine-n1263872)** > > The Covid vaccines are here, but the ApiJect syringe is not yet approved by federal regulators. > A year after a Connecticut company was awarded almost $1.3 billion in federal loans and contracts to supply [an essential syringe](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-admin-unveils-plan-ramp-syringe-production-future-covid-19-n1204436) for the Covid-19 vaccine rollout, no syringes have been made. The syringe hasn’t received even the first of a series of approvals it needs from the federal government before it can be manufactured, and a factory promising 650 jobs remains unbuilt. > > ApiJect Systems Corp. positioned itself as the company that would make the difference between a stumbling rollout and delivery of lifesaving vaccines. But as the U.S. vaccine rollout hits full stride, with about half of adults in the U.S. having already received at least one injection, the need for ApiJect’s device has waned, leaving the contracts and loans in question. > > The company said in a statement to NBC News that it “is working with several vaccine pharmaceutical companies to conduct the testing and regulatory reviews of Covid-19 vaccines in the ApiJect syringe.” ---
**Author:** ![bobman0330](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@bobman0330](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/bobman0330)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/654 "2021-04-21T17:51:18Z")
This is really interesting, and it really boggles the mind that there isn’t much more of this kind of data being collected. I think the headline conclusions are not really justified though. There are two key charts: This one shows two case rates. The dark bar is the rate of cases _detected by the special tests among program participants_, while the light bar is the rate for cases _detected any other way among everyone at the school_. Significantly, the staff were required to participate and almost all did, so the right chart basically just shows the rate of cases detected by two modes of detection. But a lot fewer students (10-20%) participated in the study,so the left chart shows the case rates between two different populations. ![image](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/7/c/7c8e51deba26864128d935d957710a2064a1a86c.png) The supplemental materials have this chart though: ![image](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/6/9/69978d35c21951dd8fdcf63526298e8320839923.png) The chart on the left is basically consistent with the prior staff chart. I was initially surprised that such a high proportion of staff cases was detected by the program rather than by conventional reporting, since adults presumably are less prone to asymptomatic infection. However, it makes perfect sense when you remember that the whole reason testing is good is that it catches cases earlier. The regular PCR testing catches both asymptomatic and presymptomatic cases and keeps them from being first identified through conventional reporting. The student chart is the more interesting one, and it seems inconsistent with the notion that 90% of cases are being missed by conventional methods.\* What this chart is saying is that at all schools, the majority of cases were already being found by conventional means, and that weekly screening tests did not find a ton more cases. AFAICT, the only way these two charts can be reconciled is if the population of students in the study is systematically different from the non-participants. Either an especially risky group self-selected into the program, or else the regular screenings created an illusion of safety that encouraged risky behavior. I don’t see how it’s reasonable to infer that asymptomatic testing would reveal 10x as many cases based on comparisons between two groups when the tests in the study caught fewer cases among the study group than conventional means. \* Actually, there are some suggestions in the paper that the testing for students was pretty slapdash, so it’s very plausible that a more rigorous testing program would produce a graph that looks like the staff graph. ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/655 "2021-04-21T18:19:40Z")
PFIZER RULES! MODERNA DROOLS! J&J IS FOR FOOLS! ASTRA ZENECA POOLS! ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/656 "2021-04-21T18:25:08Z")
Yeah this is very scary. I am afraid India is going to be in the shit pretty hard and make everyone else look like pikers. I hope not but all signs seem to point to it being wildly out of control. Given the realities of the country I dont think they are well prepared for this thing blowing up even further. I hope I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/657 "2021-04-21T18:26:16Z")
> [@Vict0ar](#): > > this 2nd shot is awful. havent felt this bad in years. meant Phizer lol fwiw. cant think straight lol. You got he e-dem vaccine. Sorry man. ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/658 "2021-04-21T18:31:49Z")
I don’t grasp this story at all. Why did we need a brand new syringe to be developed for the vaccine? Why was this ever a thing? ---
**Author:** ![Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/churchill/32/219035_2.png) [@Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Churchill)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:32pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/659 "2021-04-21T18:32:21Z")
> **[Michigan was warned about the British COVID-19 variant, but many ignored it](https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-warned-british-covid-19-165611742.html)** > > While schools and restaurants reopened and mask and quarantine rules were relaxed, the British COVID-19 variant ran rampant in Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/churchill/32/219035_2.png) [@Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Churchill)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/660 "2021-04-21T18:33:34Z")
> **[North Dakota offers free Covid-19 vaccinations for Canadian truckers](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56824177)** > > Manitoba truckers frequently crossing the border are now eligible to get vaccinated in North Dakota. ---
**Author:** ![Trolly](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/trolly/32/192190_2.png) [@Trolly](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Trolly)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:35pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/661 "2021-04-21T18:35:50Z")
> [@bobman0330](#): > > This is really interesting, and it really boggles the mind that there isn’t much more of this kind of data being collected. Controlled testing with children is hard to do, and esp if you want to replicate an authentic classroom environment. ---
**Author:** ![anon12304106](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/e99b99/32.png) [@anon12304106](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon12304106)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/662 "2021-04-21T18:45:30Z")
Looks like cases may have peaked there, 7 day average is coming down. Vaccinating our way out of this more effective than I would have thought possible a few weeks ago, thankfully. ![image](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/5/9/59f48d556780f715d156fcd5661716af2bb84633.png) ---
**Author:** ![Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/churchill/32/219035_2.png) [@Churchill](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Churchill)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761/663 "2021-04-21T18:53:00Z")
I can’t seem to find same graph for no. of tests performed? Which would aslo be expected to drop as vaccinated numbers increase. Would be rare for the UK variant to ‘disappear’ ![image](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/9/99392f510fbcdfa349041b8f4d73555cfa86bc0d.png) [Previous page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761.md?page=29) [Next page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-chapter-8-ongoing-source-of-viral-information-and-a-little-fun/4761.md?page=31)