I can’t wait for some asshole physician claim to be front of the line for covid vaccination who has told me that they won’t see a patient until their swab comes back negative.
Yes I’m bitter.
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Something like this: 
Regarding timeline I’ve heard scuttlebutt about some friends in Texas who expect to get vaccinated next week. I don’t have a date yet. I should be damn near front of the line as possible. Wil should be too. Forget anyone else.
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FoxNews viewers were absolutely terrified of ebola. Literally all it would take with covid is a few heartbreaking stories of people on vents dying w/o being able to say goodbye to their loved ones.
And yet instead we get all Boomers going “you gotta live your life without fear”. Incredible.
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Sadly this is a misnomer that many (including me) are guilty of. Protections do work but the number of infected people that we interact with is a huge part of the equation.
If our actions of wearing masks etc reduce risk 10-20 fold (just an educated guess), but our exposure goes up 10-20 fold (number of contagious folks combined with our amount of time indoors in public- “dose*time”) then our risk is the same.
Given that cases are much higher then by definition the net balance is positive to the risk side. YOLO folks will bear the majority of the case load but they also drag the relative risk up for the rest of us.
As soon as you have any risk factor from interacting with others (not total isolation) then your risk factor is likely higher than spring. Your personal carefulness has probably declined (say less physical contact protection and interacting with more people if you do make grocery runs or your “bubble” has expanded). Perhaps the only mitigation the other way is if your locale improved its mask compliance.
Not getting sick yet breeds confidence but an informal read of this board is that the number of family/friends/coworkers pozzing seems on the rise.
Our personal changes is that we did see some family over the summer. We see none now.
We do store runs but are using google map “busy” data to be more selective on when we go.
We are fortunate to have very high mask compliance here.
But it’s not perfect. Be careful. We all need to protect against over confidence. I personally struggle with it.
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“no evidence” that restaurants are unsafe
“it’s safer than the grocery store”
“I has a sad that only two teams showed up to trivia”
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Ebola came from scary black people.
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The efficacy of the AZ seems a little sketchy, but I doubt there’s any meaningful safety concerns. I’d get it, but I’d rather get one of the other vaccines coming down the pipeline.
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Well since I was pozzed about 2 weeks ago hopefully I have some built up immunity so won’t need the vax right away (not planning on doing much anyways while this shit is still going on).
Depending on how limited vaccines are is there any sense of only giving it to front line workers and other people in the front of the line who don’t have antibodies and waiting off on the people who do have some?
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My SIL at the memory care facility in Ohio thinks she get hers by mid January. She is considered 2nd tier She thinks
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A smart way to do it would have been to keep some type of a national register of people who got pozzed and put them at the end of the line for the reasons you say. Of course we live in a failed state so nothing like that is possible.
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There is a clear priority list for who gets the vaccine first - and care home residents and staff are top of it.
But operational complexities mean the reality will be somewhat different.
When the vaccines arrives, it will be sent straight to major hospitals who have the ultra-cold facilities to store it.
From there it can be moved just once - and when it is, it must be kept in batches of 1,000.
That means sending it out to care homes, where there may be only a few dozen residents in some places, would lead to a huge amount of vaccine being wasted.
Because of that, the NHS, which is in charge of distributing the vaccine, will run clinics from hospitals at first.
This will allow NHS and care home staff to get immunised first as well as, perhaps, some of the older age groups who come into hospital.
It looks like it will not be until much more of the Pfizer vaccine is available or the Oxford University one, which is easier to distribute, is approved that care home residents will be able to get it.
UK seems on top of it. The US rollout is going to be left to the states from my understanding. When you live in a state like Oklahoma that has a literal anti-vax governor there are real questions how this is all going to work.
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I am not at all surprised similar to how many physicians still smoke when they should know better.
USA #1 had states all submitting individual vaccine distribution plans before any of these latest results were even known or how any individual vaccine might affect different people (i.e. olds). I thought I read that some plans were only a couple dozen pages long or something, but cursory googles don’t verify that.
When will Americans get the jab?
Americans are wondering when they’ll get a vaccine now that the Pfizer/BioNTech jab has been approved for use in the UK. Pfizer is a US company - its partner in the vaccine, BioNTech, from Germany.
It’ll be down to the US regulator, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), to decide at a meeting next week.
Another vaccine, manufactured by Moderna, will be considered by the FDA a week later.
Vice-President Mike Pence said on Monday that Americans could start receiving the vaccine “as soon as the week of December 14”.
US vaccine timetable:
8 Dec - White House summit with vaccine firms
10 Dec - FDA could approve Pfizer
14 Dec - rollout of Pfizer vaccine could begin this week
17 Dec - FDA could approve Moderna
The US has recorded a total of 13.6 million cases and some 270,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University.
Pfizer plans to have 6.4 million doses ready for delivery by 19 December. Because two shots are required per person, that is enough for three million people, out of a total US population of 330 million.
By the following week, both Pfizer and Moderna are expected to have produced enough vaccines for another 10 million people. By the end of the month, both companies are anticipated to have produced enough vaccine for 30 million people.
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Trump being the face of Warp Speed may help increase vaccine compliance. I’ve got an aunt and uncle that are very proud of Warp Speed “working” - I’m not sure they would get a vaccine at any point if say the derposphere were calling it the Obama Vaccine.
why? why do you think that is helpful at all?
???
What churchill posted seems like useful information.
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This reasonable on its face, however the problem is, there isn’t a ton of good that can come from me reading the studies. There is literally zero chance that I can offer any scientific, medical, or immunological insight beyond what scientists that devote their life to this subject can.
Consider the scenario where the FDA/whoever approves the use of one of these vaccines. You then read the study. Do you honestly expect to stumble upon some medical insight or statistical anomaly that these regulatory bodies missed?
I used to say that same thing - I’ll see what happens, look at the data, and make a decision. But, I’m a moron so who am I kidding that I’ll even be able to understand the scientific data on even the most superficial level.
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