# COVID-19 (2): Turns out it's going to be pretty bad actually **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & News\ **Created:** [April 5, 2020, 3:23pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461 "2020-04-05T15:23:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 317
**Author:** ![fluff](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/5f9b8f/32.png) [@fluff](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/fluff)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7038 "2020-04-26T20:52:21Z")
March 15th 😁 Still debating getting an oxygen concentrator… ![image](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/8/c8fc8045236f2960009222c6c98cfdc27cd237ea.png) ---
**Author:** ![Nicholasp27](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/nicholasp27/32/28896_2.png) [@Nicholasp27](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Nicholasp27)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7039 "2020-04-26T21:02:19Z")
CPAP machines are where it is at. They may be better than ventilators for this disease but they spread the virus so can’t be used in hospitals, but at home it may be better than going to hospital. That may be how we get through this in the end; everyone gets a home cpap machine that they can use instead of going to the hospital. Won’t help those who get clots or other covid issues, but for lung issues it may be what works best. Cpap in a recliner or in a prone position. ---
**Author:** ![Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/danspartan/32/30396_2.png) [@Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Danspartan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:02pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7040 "2020-04-26T22:02:58Z")
Since we are speculating, I wonder if cpap plus moderate oxygen enrichment (23% is the safety level??) might do a lot of good. Hyperbaric chambers? ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7041 "2020-04-26T22:04:09Z")
Glad to hear you’re doing ok! Was my assumption fairly accurate? (That it’s a lot easier for a nurse or non-specialized doctor to administer the same quality of care with HFNCs than with a vent.) Seems pretty significant if that’s something that’s not only more effective but also easier to do. UP has speculated at times that one of the problems is that even if there are enough vents to go around, there aren’t enough respiratory docs to be adjusting the settings optimally as often as needed. ---
**Author:** ![suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/suzzer99/32/132432_2.png) [@suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/suzzer99)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:09pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7042 "2020-04-26T22:09:59Z")
> [@anon38180840](#): > > > [@suzzer99](#): > > > > [UChicago Medicine doctors see 'truly remarkable' success using ventilator alternatives to treat COVID-19 - UChicago Medicine](https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/uchicago-medicine-doctors-see-truly-remarkable-success-using-ventilator-alternatives-to-treat-covid19) > > > > U of Chicago getting great results out of proning vs. blasting humid oxygen filled air up nostrils - instead of ventilators. Big problem is both are super dangerous for healthcare workers. > > It seems like we could increase capacity for this more easily, and it may require way less expertise to administer - as in similar outcomes with a nurse, doc, or respiratory specialist which is not the case with a vent. Right, @hobbes9324? Hope you’re well, by the way - haven’t seen you here in a bit. > > If that’s all the case, the move could be to max the number of beds/patients in a big enclosed space since you’re less worried about people already infected sharing germs… Although there may be viral load issues with that. Having medical workers go in and out of 20 sealed rooms to treat 20 patients seems very suboptimal. Maybe you want to ask @Will1530? He actually works long hours so he kind of skims this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Unstoppable](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mr\_Unstoppable](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Mr_Unstoppable)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:10pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7043 "2020-04-26T22:10:02Z")
Ordered my oximeter amazon prime March 13th delivered March 19th I waited too long and bought them when they were out of stock and was super pissed at myself at the time but it only took a few extra days to arrive. ---
**Author:** ![CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/CornCobb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7044 "2020-04-26T22:20:15Z")
I ordered my pulse ox on March 6. ---
**Author:** ![anachronistic](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/aeb1de/32.png) [@anachronistic](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anachronistic)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7045 "2020-04-26T22:21:50Z")
> [@Fatboy8](#): > > I was really hoping that was real, Lol ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:23pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7046 "2020-04-26T22:23:52Z")
> [@Danspartan](#): > > Since we are speculating, I wonder if cpap plus moderate oxygen enrichment (23% is the safety level??) might do a lot of good. > > Hyperbaric chambers? I have CPAP, but no oxygen for it. No clue how much one would need or how that would be fitted to the machine. Anyone know? I do have the heated humidifier box with it, which seems good for this. ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:28pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7047 "2020-04-26T22:28:26Z")
> [@CornCobb](#): > > I ordered my pulse ox on March 6. I hope you brought receipts! ![Screenshot_20200426-182151~2](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/e/0ecaddaa57aae3ae680331fdebab4e6e33d13624.png) ---
**Author:** ![CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/CornCobb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7048 "2020-04-26T22:30:15Z")
Apparently I got took on price though. ![Screenshot_20200426-182927_Amazon Shopping](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/8/7/87745d0eea3d1f84887cf1e1f2189f154314582a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/danspartan/32/30396_2.png) [@Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Danspartan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7049 "2020-04-26T22:30:58Z")
It’s possible to get machines that can enrich O2 out of air. If they can be combined with cpap IDK. > **[TTLife Oxygen Concentrator MAF015AW](https://www.oxygenconcentrator.shop/products/oxygen-concentrator-maf015aw-4?variant=21247168184379&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping)** > > The oxygen concentrator for TTLife MAF015AW has been upgraded! Oxygen Concentration: 30% - 90% (1L/min) adjustable. The machine can continue to work for 24 h / 7 d without operating the time button. ---
**Author:** ![Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/danspartan/32/30396_2.png) [@Danspartan](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Danspartan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7050 "2020-04-26T22:32:06Z")
This guy needs to go > **[Pastor under house arrest defies stay-at-home order and holds packed church...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-louisiana-pastor-church-service-house-arrest-tony-spell-a9484881.html)** > > Wearing ankle bracelet after arrest for allegedly threatening to run over protester, defiant pastor tells congregation: 'Come out of your hiding, America' ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7051 "2020-04-26T22:35:10Z")
I must have gotten tipped off by you then, I guess? I remember reading that first big study in China, and discussing it here - couldn’t remember who thought of the pulse ox being the way to go. If we were running the country, we’d have \< 1,000 current cases, be safely reopening by now, and \< 1,000 deaths probably. ---
**Author:** ![CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/CornCobb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7052 "2020-04-26T22:36:18Z")
I ordered masks and hand sanitizer January 27th. ---
**Author:** ![CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@CornCobb](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/CornCobb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7053 "2020-04-26T22:40:17Z")
Debating buying some nicotine patches now. A long shot they help, but if it does, they will be gone, and if it doesn’t pan out I can gift them to someone I know that smokes. ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7054 "2020-04-26T22:40:27Z")
> [@CornCobb](#): > > I ordered masks and hand sanitizer January 27th. I got talked out of masks early, ordered mine 3/2. I started stockpiling in late-February and locked down on 3/9 IIRC. Everyone in real life thought I was nuts every step of the way. ---
**Author:** ![anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@anon38180840](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/anon38180840)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7055 "2020-04-26T22:40:45Z")
> [@CornCobb](#): > > Debating buying some nicotine patches now. A long shot they help, but if it does, they will be gone, and if it doesn’t pan out I can gift them to someone I know that smokes. My thoughts, basically. Bought em the other day. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Unstoppable](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Mr\_Unstoppable](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Mr_Unstoppable)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:43pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7056 "2020-04-26T22:43:55Z")
[https://twitter.com/MHoffmam/status/1254522628926103552](https://twitter.com/MHoffmam/status/1254522628926103552) Um my roomate who spends her entire life outside drove by this protest today with her boyfriend, to check out the scene they claim, but c’mon they were probably there honking their horn in support of these idiots! Not only that but they didn’t take her car they decided to hop on his scooter?!?! Like they just went to a drive thru coronavirus receiving site thanks guys really smart. maybe we just open the beaches and let every moron go there and give each other coronavirus to teach them a lesson and build to that herd immunity? could be an idea. ---
**Author:** ![Tilted](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/tilted/32/116561_2.png) [@Tilted](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Tilted)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461/7057 "2020-04-26T22:48:20Z")
My dog is going to be in desperate need of a haircut before the heat sets in. Any update on the spread to dogs? Mobile groomers are still in business which I considered. [Previous page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461.md?page=316) [Next page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/covid-19-2-turns-out-its-going-to-be-pretty-bad-actually/1461.md?page=318)