College Basketball 2022-23 Season Thread

I don’t think it would be possible to stay more consistently on the ass end of the bubble as Oregon has this season.

Always glad (relieved, actually) to not lose to Oregon State but there would have been some comfort in this season having been put out of its misery.

Lol imagine if she was white. This dude would already be in the chair.

The line is that the deliverer was already on his way to meet the shooter when the texts about bringing the gun were sent. That seems like something the police are confident with.

Beyond that there’s a claim that deliverer didn’t know of the gun’s location in the car, which I suppose can’t be proven.

Delivering the murder weapon that was stored away in your car to one of your friends who stores murder weapons in your car. Like I said, not a crime. Play ball.

WE WANT BAMA

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Who’s a good boy? Yes, that’s a good boy!

https://twitter.com/AlexLinton_/status/1630766048323436545

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Absolutely perfect that it’s Louisville’s court.

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Is Kenpom garbage or am I allowed to feel righteous anger that Lunardi has #72 Wisconsin nine spots ahead of #42 Oregon and #68 Pittsburgh 15 spots ahead?

Vanderbilt has the exact same record as Oregon, a weaker SOS and is #81. Ahead of Oregon.

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They’re measuring 2 different things. Kenpom is attempting to be a predictive measure of how good you are relative to the competition. Lunardi is measuring your resume, who you beat and who you lost to.

Think about it this way: Kenpom treats a 1 point win and a 1 point loss as basically the same thing. Lunardi and the committee treat those as two very different events.

Yeah, I get that (I’m 99% just whining here), but treating the ACC as far superior to the P12 this year is bs.

And lol at being multiple games below Northwestern in the B10 standings and getting in. Why not change the rules and let Ohio State in, too?

(Rant continues)

Seems to me that the only thing the committee should do is look at efficiency ratings and then make minor adjustments for teams who are “overrated” due to a bunch of close losses and also have alternate rankings that turn a teams biggest outlier margin of victory and defeat into ~15 point wins or losses.

I’m guessing that a big reason merely showing up in the B10 gets you in this year are all the overlapping metrics.

Maybe it’s a stupid idea but something I’ve thought about is having non-conference results determine the number of bids a conference gets and then allowing the conferences to divvy them up based on regular season standings and tournament results. Force them to come out and say the B10 deserves 14 bids based on how dominant they were OOC. Unfair? Give back the money and join the MVC.

Yeah Pitt has overperformed their skill this year (I think in a normal year we’d be outside the bubble with our talent), but isn’t it less fun if we only use efficiency to seed? Regular season end of games become almost as meaningless as the first minute.

I’ll grant that the Pac 12 is way closer to the MWC than it is the Big 12 and has barely been competitive nationally the past two decades etc…

But

I fully believe the “they beat themselves up and it costs them” and “no one watches their games and it costs them” narratives are more true for basketball than football.

Oregon has been a very successful program since Utah and Colorado were added. One final four, an elite eight, two sweet sixteens and two round of 32s. They were a 1 seed for the elite eight run.

Oregon is 1-9 against Colorado on the road. The one win was last season when Oregon was mid-NIT. You can’t tell me that trip is the equivalent of a road game against a program equal to CU’s stature.

I’ll grant efficiency ratings aren’t the be all, end all. But the Pac 12 has five teams ranked ahead of Wisconsin who aren’t in the tournament as of today:
Washington State, Colorado and Utah are 100% not getting an at-large.

Oregon probably can’t get an at-large but has a slim chance if they beat UCLA in the semis.

ASU needs to at least beat Oregon and probably UCLA.

To get to a Big 10 team thats out of the equation you have to go down all the way to Nebraska or 13-18 Ohio State. Come on.

TLDR Bill Walton is a clown but he has a point.

I like the way that European soccer does it, where the number of teams a country gets to their big tournaments depends on how their teams have done in previous tournaments. I think it’s a format that could translate fine to college basketball. Would make stuff like the NIT and CBI matter a lot more.

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That’s a better idea, I’m sure.

https://twitter.com/midwestern_ope/status/1632493820049850369

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Psh, everyone knows Illini Supersweet corn is superior variety. Has Purdue even developed a commercial strain that has impacted the world like that? Don’t think so

Here’s the main crux of why some conferences are more respected than others:

Record in Non-conference Q3 and Q4 Games:

ACC: 87-18
Big Ten: 91-6
Big XII: 77-2 (!!!)
SEC: 102-11
PAC-12: 65-16
MWC: 70-19

Say what you want about the other leagues also having bad teams, but losing those games against other conferences hurts the perception and the neutral power rankings (Kenpom) of that conference.

In the case of the Pac-12, Cal being 1-6 in those games definitely drags down the league, but 9 out of the 12 Pac-12 teams had a Q3 or Q4 loss in the non-conference.

6 out of the 14 Big Ten teams did, and they had 1 loss each (Even bottom feeder Minnesota went 6-1 in those games).

Usually I would agree with Mendoza but in 2018 Penn State was ranked in the top 20 by both KenPom and torvik and missed the tournament because their conference record sucked and then went on to blow out teams in the NIT tourney so if they get in as the 50th best team this year I’m not going to feel too bad about it

Boeheim retired. Adrian Autry replacing him.

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