Coffee Talk (and Tea)

usual routine for me is

  • wake
  • drink some water
  • drink coffee
  • walk dog
  • drink another coffee
  • eat something
  • brush
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thereā€™s no way I would brush before drinking coffee, would absolutely wreck the taste.

maybe brushing with just water if youā€™re really feeling gunky and went to bed wasted without brushing last night or something

Right, I was thinking about the orange juice / toothpaste effect and how that might be related to coffee. Since I usually wait about an hour after brushing to have coffee, I thought Iā€™d be in the clear (I also do a water rinse right before). Of course, it dawned on me that I donā€™t know this for certain, and it seems plausible that it mostly goes away but maybe not entirely.

Here is the mechanism, as explained by Colgate (it has nothing to do with the mint / flavor agent):

Meet Sodium Laurel Sulfate

SLS does two things that can transform OJ from a sweet, refreshing drink into a glass of bitterness:

  • Suppresses the receptors on the taste buds that can pick up on sweet flavors. So, for a while at least, youā€™re not able to taste ā€œsweetā€ no matter what you drink.

  • Breaks up phospholipids, the fatty compounds that help reduce bitter tastes. By blocking the receptors that sense bitterness.

My question is how long does this effect last? I could not quickly locate a good study on it with a cursory search (emphasis: cursory). Several non-scientific sites seem to reference research claiming about an hour, but I didnā€™t see any actual citations. Iā€™ve also seen claims of 75 minutes and up to four hours in some people. The thing Iā€™m really interested in here isnā€™t the average but rather the distribution, and Iā€™ve read claims that not everyone experiences the effect. If anyone wants to find these studies, be my guest.

Yeah Iā€™m one of the snowflakes who canā€™t eat or drink before brushing. Iā€™ve tried doing coffee this way and hated it so much Iā€™d just quit coffee instead. Fortunately, SLS-free toothpaste exists. I switched to Sensodyne recently and think thereā€™s a subtle difference, although I canā€™t say for sure that Iā€™m not just on a hot streak of V60 pours. My cups seem to be maybe 5%-10% (at most) clearer, sweeter, and less bitter, but Iā€™ll need to do an actual experiment to compare because itā€™s subtle. Sensodyne is kind of expensive, so Iā€™m only using it in the morning. However, a test tube (0.8 oz) for anyone looking to try it first costs about $1.60.

In related News of the Weird: Tropicana released a limited edition SLS-free toothpaste in November last year that you could only obtain in a lottery by reacting to their IG account.

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LMAO

That could be a great grinder but I could handle only :24 of that guy talking.

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The hardest part is watching him grind with it. If you can get past that, his description of the ghost tooth profile is dead on in my experience. Of course, heā€™s talking about LRSO filter only. There are people who use this grinder as their daily which is mind blowing.

uh hard pass

dude definitely needs to bolt that mf down

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Iā€™m just trying to understand who this product is for. An off-the-grid doomsday prepper with an uncompromising demand for the highest quality coffee?

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Relevant article:

I have not had espresso made by the Eversys machines they use, but I had plenty of them from fully-automated machines in Switzerland and it was not very good. Definitely not as good as what comes out of my very-simple home Breville. Seems like their business plan is built on people not particularly caring how good the coffee is, which actually seems like a sound strategy.

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Rolled out to Klatch Coffee in Pasadena andā€¦no espresso beans. Come back at 3PM, they said. Guess I should have called first? Disappointment, Klatch!

Hmm. Were you able to get anything? I wonder if Pasadena and Redondo are more like Klatch Lite locations since the main store is the one in Rancho Cucamonga and most of them seem to be inland.

I was annoyed and didnā€™t get anything. They only had lighter roasts. Good-size cafe, lots of seating. I think itā€™s possible that their retail isnā€™t geared for the aficionado.

Yeah itā€™s annoying but it also happens to me stopping in at my favorite roasters and they donā€™t have what I want. Thatā€™s why I generally just order everything.

dayglow update, got my monthly box in the mail yesterday and theyā€™re now apparently roasting in-house. I got one bag of their in-house beans and one bag from https://cafeconjiribilla.com/en - but the Jiribilla beans were packaged in the same bags that dayglow is using for their own stuff. Apparently theyā€™ve decided that too many roasters have bad marketing departments??

Interesting but maybe has something to do with bag sizes / specs? Probably just easier for them to bag it their way or something. I guess Iā€™m missing something here on the Jiribilla because Iā€™m assuming itā€™s not actually $350* a bag.

*And before you say of course not, thatā€™s in pesos or whatever, Iā€™m still adjusting to pricing after seeing Jimmy Butlerā€™s coffee startup and the prices theyā€™re charging. Yes, the NBA player.

Oh FFS I just wanted to order some filters, not re-re-re-investigate this.

godddamit please tell me thatā€™s a photoshop

Unless Prima is photoshopping their product now itā€™s real.

Hario USA site still has OG untabbed in stock. Iā€™m switching to an 01 size and just bought 10 boxes there for $45.50 shipped. Coupon code HARIO10 for 10% off and the shipping was $5.