Chess

25 anon confessed GM’s

thought it’d be higher actually

Yeah they also said that they estimate only 0.14% of people on chess.com ever cheat. I thought it would be higher for sure.

one notable thing reading through this to me

according to them hans actually has a lower percentage of “perfect” games than everyone else

The funny thing is that given the theory of how he would be cheating (using the engine for a few moves here and there) this is totally consistent with that theory, because the other way you get perfect games is by being good at chess and he would be a worse player than them under this theory.

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Here’s one fan who could not have told you 2 minutes ago what fusty means.

Might be worse than the cheating

Among the new breed of female streamers is 20-year-old Anna Cramling from Sweden. Two years ago, she was planning to study international relations or politics at university. Instead, she has become a popular chess personality, despite being ranked about 17,000th in the world.

Cramling has succeeded because she produces content that is creative, universal and very watchable.

lol, if there were a World Championships of making coy allusions to someone’s looks I would award this the gold medal.

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People like you are the reason people like me can’t play slower games without facing engines.

Fuckin dusty, I assume.

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I read the report (quickly) and I don’t think it is as clear as it could be. Maybe they don’t want to give too much away, I’m not sure. Just so people don’t misinterpret this: I do think he cheated in many more games than he admitted to, including probably the listed games. But the report doesn’t say with much specificity how they determined that those particular games were the result of cheating.

It’s not clear why Table 1 indicates cheating. (Again I believe it probably does, but they haven’t done a good job of explaining why.) I don’t know what Magnus’s or Fabio’s strength scores would be in similar matches. I don’t know what a typical 2465 player’s strength scores would be in similar matches.

Table 2 is also unclear. OK, all these players confessed to cheating–is this table the strength score just for the games where they cheated, or for all their games? Did they all cheat at the same rate?

Is Table 2 just 3/0 games for all the players? The report does say on p. 9: “the performance that ultimately led to the action of having his account closed was benchmarked with a Strength Score of 85.50 in 3|0 games.” And that is the SS listed in the table for Hans. So that table is 3/0 games for all listed players?

What do strength scores of 2500 non-cheaters and top GMs look like for 3/0 games? They do say “A score of 100 is approximately the highest we have measured for human chess players that can be achieved over a several game span, and 90 is the highest score we have seen a top player sustain
over time in classical chess time controls.” Did they give a similar range for 3/0 games in the report and I missed it?

Also if you look at the SS per games chart in the appendix of, say Firouzja vs Hans, it’s not clear that Hans’ distribution is inhuman. Above his rating, yes. But the smoking gun in Postle case was “no human could make all of these coin flip decisions with that kind of accuracy”, right? Here the implication is that some humans could play at this SS level, just not Hans at his rating?

I get that there is other evidence (browsers etc.), and that they want to keep some things close to the vest.

wait, nigel short got so mad someone got put on board 1 instead of him he slept with the guy’s girlfriend

a guy with known psychatric issues good lord dude

also there are chess groupies?

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Not only did he do this he then told the story in the obituary he wrote for Miles in his newspaper column (near bottom of second last column).

Short is a creep. This is curtains from 2+2:

https://twitter.com/GregShahade/status/1575895409226297344

There are definitely chess groupies. Grischuk is well known for being a ladies man.

terrible interview/interviewer

A friend was just asking how much chess is learned vs innate ability? I have no idea. Minus any special genetics can anyone work hard enough to be a grand master?

no - its the same way theres people who play poker for 30 years and still lose at 1/2, most people’s brain just doesnt work the right way to become a GM

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I think you need to have some natural talent to be a chess GM, but even for the greats it is a TON of work. Most of the top 100 player in the world are identified as major talents at extremely young ages and it’s extremely demanding to attain GM status even if you have a lot of talent.

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I assumed it was somewhat analogous to poker but wasn’t sure. Thanks.

Watching the first round of the US Championships.

The youngest player in the field on the women’s side is only 12. She won today with black against a stronger player but it was torturous to watch because she was just so obviously nervous and anxious. I don’t know, despite her age, she’s not an inexperienced player but still- maybe too young to be playing under so much pressure.

Watching the Hans interview after his win now. “Chess speaks for itself!” And… It’s over. He’s feeling the heat a little too.