hippo?
Maybe, I feel like giving Carlsen that much space will lead to a quick demise even with a solid structure though.
How many moves do you think it takes to for Magnus to mate, I think hippo is good for at least 20 without too much difficulty.
Hereâs an example of a GM taking apart an amateur hippo in 28 moves. I think that this is how most GMs would handle a mediocre playerâs hippo, I donât think Carlsen would do this much differently. What separates Carlsen from people like Naroditsky isnât Carlsenâs ability to stomp amateurs faster.
28 is pretty good though. How many moves do you think the winner lasts against Magnus?
even an IM is extremely lucky to draw against magnus. the discussion is about how long the rest of us can survive 28 definitely sounds good to me to win that contest with 5 randos
I think this depends on time controls. As good as Carlsen is, he does lose Blitz games. And he certainly makes mistakes that could result in a draw. Although I guess you could say thatâs âluckâ.
To whom? Other GMs?
Seriously asking. I donât follow chess very much at all.
Yes, he is the best blitz player in the world but that still involves some losses to other GMs because everyone makes mistakes in faster time controls.
He does play regularly on Lichess as well, I doubt he is totally undefeated in blitz. I wouldnât be surprised if he occasionally loses to even an IM. If you play enough blitz games you will make mistakes eventually.
Edit: Looking at his blitz profile on Lichess, it looks like all the losses are to other GMs.
Not sure, but I thought Hikaru had the best blitz record, online anyway.
More convinced by the hippo after seeing that because that was not a well played hippo, even arguably not really a hippo at all. The point of the hippo is to keep the center open for the bishops, it doesnât involve playing c3 and d4 (when you want to break in the center you play c4 or f4). After Black was like âOK lol thanksâ and locked the center, Whiteâs choices were 1) demolish the center with f3 and then get slaughtered because that is too weakening or 2) the option he went with in the game, sit there helplessly and wait to get mated.
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White has successfully engineered a position where his minor pieces have no moves, this is the direct result of this c3-d4 plan.
Yeah, but in general where the hippo leads against strong opposition is that you fall behind in development and a GM with a development lead smashes a mediocre player with tactics. Sure, if you force a GM to play a hippo against another GM it will be a tough battle, but the situation weâre talking about here is a some amateurs playing Magnus and what would happen. These Naroditsky videos give you real world examples of what happens when someone that is not very good tries an approach against an actual GM.
Yeah? Reread my post. I said I was more convinced by the hippo because it held out for 28 moves even when White chose a suicidal plan that wasnât actually the hippo.
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Gotcha. I lost track of the conversation!
I suck and well I got nothing went through a few and didnât see the rest of it
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went through starting with queen takes bishop, then starting with bishop takes knight, then starting with rook to E5 didnât see the rest of it and stopped for sanity reasons
Bxe7+ followed by Rf3+?
I havenât worked it out, but this looks like one of those positions where maneuvering a bishop around would be the Big Brain move. There are alot of weak diagonals because black has no pawns in the center.
It took me like 30 seconds to realise that this is the position from the Tal game Naroditsky showed the other day. I was going to give this position to friends to solve as Naroditsky claimed Talâs move is the only winning move, but the engine shows there are two other winning moves. Itâs a very sexy move from Tal though. Played in a simul, too.
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bishop to F4 wow being on this list sure the knight canât take it now but if it could thatâs quite the fork canât imagine anyone here wouldâve played that