Chess

I know these kinds of stories are supposed to be inspiring but they do the opposite for me. They make chess less interesting, imo. How great can a game be when a 12 year old is one of the best in the world?

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Meh Iā€™m positive there are thousands of twelve year olds who would whoop my ass at pretty much every game Iā€™ve ever enjoyed.

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Maybe youā€™re right. I havenā€™t played a lot of games. The only ones Iā€™ve played at a high level are poker and Magic, where it doesnā€™t seem to be right that there are thousands of potential elite children. But maybe there would be if parents had the same incentive to raise a WSOP champ as a GM.

Pretty great, actually.

The fact that some kids take naturally to chess is one of the best parts of it! Some of the best chess memories I have are being taught by my grandfather and I think thatā€™s actually totally standard. Itā€™s a universal part of the human condition that someoneā€™s grandfather somewhere is teaching them chess right now, and itā€™s beautiful.

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Same here. My grandfather played at quite a high level, and I could beat my dad (his son) by the age of 10 or so, although I have no doubt he taught him when he was a kid also.

All the games I play now and post here are 3/2 hence all the blunders etc. Iā€™m a bit better under normal time controls!

i used to be much better, which wasnā€™t good anyway. perhaps in 1700-1800 range at peak post-hs. right now i do chess.com puzzles and rush puzzles to at least gauge if iā€™m falling further off, or staying level. iā€™m sure in 20 years or so i will have lost my mind and there will be data to back it up

Iā€™m confused here. Which one has higher incentives?

For me it would be GM, but I can understand seeing it the other way.

The GM training is incentivized. There are many disincentives associated with training a 5-year-old to play poker. I guess you are thinking purely in terms of monetary incentives? Iā€™m a little surprised that anyone would see it the other way.

I actually think there is a lot math and decision analysis in poker that is directly applicable to real life situations. Also if you fall short of being a WSOP champ, you can still make a comfortable living playing winning poker. If youā€™re the thousandth best poker player in the world, you can make decent money.

If your the 1000th best chess player in the world, there isnā€™t that much money in that (I assume).

Nevertheless, Iā€™d still pick GM for my kid (realizing that itā€™s never gonna actually happen).

Before the last few years I think 100th worldwide would probably get low 6 figures. But now with twitch itā€™s a whole new world. Botez is like 25000th worldwide ranking, Gotham is 5000ish, Rosen is about 3000, etcā€¦ and they are doing quite well.

I think the most successful guys online arenā€™t successful just because of their chess ability. Someone can be great at chess and not have the ability to create that kind of content.

But I agree with the overall point that chess has more income potential than it used to.

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Rozman and Rosen are near identical in strength.

When you play against your favourite defence you generally know when blackā€™s gone wrongā€¦

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Iā€™m on a 26-4-3 run at 5+5 blitz over the past few weeks, flipped the god mode switch or something.

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How does your puzzle rating compare to your game rating? Iā€™m 1100 in Rapid and 1550 with puzzles. I get that this could point to lots of different problems. I do get into time trouble a lot, which isnā€™t really an issue with puzzles because I can sit there for 3-4 minutes and figure it out if need be.

My blitz is currently 1460, but Iā€™m on a heater and Iā€™m probably more accurately somewhere in the 1300s. Puzzle is like 2150. I think Iā€™m really too lazy with puzzles though, i rarely spend more than a minute or two trying to find the entire line, so Iā€™ll end up guessing a lot and sometimes back my way into a solution I didnā€™t see until after the opponentā€™s move.

Ah, ok, so itā€™s pretty normal then to have a higher puzzle rating. I thought the system might adjust for this if everyoneā€™s puzzle rating is several hundred points inflated.

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My puzzle rating is also much higher than my game rating. Puzzles arenā€™t timed so I dont make blunders.

My puzzle is also 400+. My only gripe about puzzles is it feels disjointed to jump in the middle of a situation and find the best move

Yeah I donā€™t think I have a puzzle rating, Iā€™ve hardly ever done them, but I find it kind of disorienting to jump into a position and have to figure it out. I kind of wonder if your puzzle rating is much higher than game rating, whether it means you need to work on noticing motifs more in-game. What I mean is, during a game Iā€™m constantly being like ā€œhey if my knight takes on d6 that would fork the queen and rook, doesnā€™t work at the moment because the pawn on c7 defends it, but notedā€. GothamChess is always on about doing your checklist - checks, captures, attacks, do they do anything? - which is good advice but the truth is, Iā€™m more likely to notice a tactic in reverse. Rather than being like ā€œhey would it do anything if I took the pawn on c7ā€ Iā€™m like ā€œhey that tactical motif I saw earlier works if I take on c7 nowā€. When thrown into a puzzle position, I donā€™t have that library of motifs in the position built up, and Iā€™m slower and weaker than I am in-game. Or so it seems to me, anyway.