Chess: RIP Daniel Naroditsky

I know these kinds of stories are supposed to be inspiring but they do the opposite for me. They make chess less interesting, imo. How great can a game be when a 12 year old is one of the best in the world?

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Meh I’m positive there are thousands of twelve year olds who would whoop my ass at pretty much every game I’ve ever enjoyed.

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Maybe you’re right. I haven’t played a lot of games. The only ones I’ve played at a high level are poker and Magic, where it doesn’t seem to be right that there are thousands of potential elite children. But maybe there would be if parents had the same incentive to raise a WSOP champ as a GM.

Pretty great, actually.

The fact that some kids take naturally to chess is one of the best parts of it! Some of the best chess memories I have are being taught by my grandfather and I think that’s actually totally standard. It’s a universal part of the human condition that someone’s grandfather somewhere is teaching them chess right now, and it’s beautiful.

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Same here. My grandfather played at quite a high level, and I could beat my dad (his son) by the age of 10 or so, although I have no doubt he taught him when he was a kid also.

All the games I play now and post here are 3/2 hence all the blunders etc. I’m a bit better under normal time controls!

i used to be much better, which wasn’t good anyway. perhaps in 1700-1800 range at peak post-hs. right now i do chess.com puzzles and rush puzzles to at least gauge if i’m falling further off, or staying level. i’m sure in 20 years or so i will have lost my mind and there will be data to back it up

I’m confused here. Which one has higher incentives?

For me it would be GM, but I can understand seeing it the other way.

The GM training is incentivized. There are many disincentives associated with training a 5-year-old to play poker. I guess you are thinking purely in terms of monetary incentives? I’m a little surprised that anyone would see it the other way.

I actually think there is a lot math and decision analysis in poker that is directly applicable to real life situations. Also if you fall short of being a WSOP champ, you can still make a comfortable living playing winning poker. If you’re the thousandth best poker player in the world, you can make decent money.

If your the 1000th best chess player in the world, there isn’t that much money in that (I assume).

Nevertheless, I’d still pick GM for my kid (realizing that it’s never gonna actually happen).

Before the last few years I think 100th worldwide would probably get low 6 figures. But now with twitch it’s a whole new world. Botez is like 25000th worldwide ranking, Gotham is 5000ish, Rosen is about 3000, etc… and they are doing quite well.

I think the most successful guys online aren’t successful just because of their chess ability. Someone can be great at chess and not have the ability to create that kind of content.

But I agree with the overall point that chess has more income potential than it used to.

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Rozman and Rosen are near identical in strength.

When you play against your favourite defence you generally know when black’s gone wrong…

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I’m on a 26-4-3 run at 5+5 blitz over the past few weeks, flipped the god mode switch or something.

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How does your puzzle rating compare to your game rating? I’m 1100 in Rapid and 1550 with puzzles. I get that this could point to lots of different problems. I do get into time trouble a lot, which isn’t really an issue with puzzles because I can sit there for 3-4 minutes and figure it out if need be.

My blitz is currently 1460, but I’m on a heater and I’m probably more accurately somewhere in the 1300s. Puzzle is like 2150. I think I’m really too lazy with puzzles though, i rarely spend more than a minute or two trying to find the entire line, so I’ll end up guessing a lot and sometimes back my way into a solution I didn’t see until after the opponent’s move.

Ah, ok, so it’s pretty normal then to have a higher puzzle rating. I thought the system might adjust for this if everyone’s puzzle rating is several hundred points inflated.

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My puzzle rating is also much higher than my game rating. Puzzles aren’t timed so I dont make blunders.

My puzzle is also 400+. My only gripe about puzzles is it feels disjointed to jump in the middle of a situation and find the best move

Yeah I don’t think I have a puzzle rating, I’ve hardly ever done them, but I find it kind of disorienting to jump into a position and have to figure it out. I kind of wonder if your puzzle rating is much higher than game rating, whether it means you need to work on noticing motifs more in-game. What I mean is, during a game I’m constantly being like ā€œhey if my knight takes on d6 that would fork the queen and rook, doesn’t work at the moment because the pawn on c7 defends it, but notedā€. GothamChess is always on about doing your checklist - checks, captures, attacks, do they do anything? - which is good advice but the truth is, I’m more likely to notice a tactic in reverse. Rather than being like ā€œhey would it do anything if I took the pawn on c7ā€ I’m like ā€œhey that tactical motif I saw earlier works if I take on c7 nowā€. When thrown into a puzzle position, I don’t have that library of motifs in the position built up, and I’m slower and weaker than I am in-game. Or so it seems to me, anyway.