Auto Repair

I’m gonna say no. Maybe rebalancing would help? Otherwise new tire(s) time.

So again got dumb car questions.

My fender liner is shredded completely to a point that my wheel was making alarming noises on the highway yesterday. Took it to the body shop places and they came up with this quote which seems high to me but im stupid.

Do i even need that shit or i can just rip it off?

Body work is expensive in general, so I’m not surprised by the price. Need is relative. They help keep shit from getting kicked up into the engine bay. They are more important if you live in a wet snowy area where they use lots of salt on the road. For the most part anything that even has a remote chance of being exposed to moisture is protected from short term water intrusion. But long term corrosion still happens. So the effects may get noticed years later as things start to get wetter and more corroded.

My advice would probably be to get it repaired unless it’s a POS car that you plan on sending to the junkyard in the next 3 to 5 years, and don’t care about the fender liner aesthetic. But if you want to keep it in the best shape possible and/or plan on selling it, I’d get it fixed right.

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its a 2008 civic i don’t plan on it working in 3-5 years.

i just don’t want it to make scary ass sounds on the highway.


The liner is there to keep the stuff behind it from getting sandblasted over the course of thousands of miles. I’d recommend getting it fixed and estimate you got looks reasonable to me.

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Agree with previous posts. Bodywork is expensive but the estimate seems fine. If it was me with an old car I think I’d just pull the liner out myself then leave it off or try to repair it or find a cheap replacement on eBay. They’re typically attached by plastic fasteners that you can take out pretty easily with just a screwdriver to pry with. If you’re comfortable jacking the car up in the air and removing the wheel it’s not a hard job.

Dude who made video provides amazon links to the parts, fwiw.

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It’s raining here. Should be a good test of my last auto “repair” project. Slopped some silicone adhesive around the edge of the moonroof, which had leaked, leaving pools of water on the passenger side floorboards. Total cost $4.

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That is the cheapest estimate for body work I have ever seen or heard of.

I dgaf about the bumper. Just the fender liner is clearly shredded beyond repair. Duct tape won’t save it.

Ah ok. I thought you might have just enough real estate there to chop out the middle and get horizontal with it.

Also I love palm trees.

So I’m getting some new tires. Can someone explain to me the difference between these two and why I should care. Cost difference is about 0.4%

Michellin Crossclimate2 235/60R18 107 V XL
Michellin Crossclimate2 235/60R18 107 H XL

From what I can tell, it won’t really matter as the difference is only for speeds that this minivan will never hit. But I’d assume if the V is rated for higher speed then it is probably (?maybe) better in some way.

Go with whats ever cheaper, which i assume is still the H? Vs used to cost more back in the day because folks thought it was some high performance tire since it can handle higher speeds. Sellers would price them up and advertise them as being better at cornering or longer tread life when it was all just marketing horseshit. They look to be the same price now because they are going to be the same for you unless your hitting 150.

The price is $243 vs $244. Seems like they have priced pretty appropriately to account for the value of V over H. Seems like it doesn’t matter at all what I do.

What happened is that I picked V, they tried to sell me H, then I pointed it out and said I wanted V (because that was the one I had researched before going in). They said OK and that was that.

Then I went home and tried to figure out the difference (I had already researched the tire, but not that aspect) and got a bit stuck. That is when I posted here.

It’s not just “V tire can go faster therefore better.” There are structural differences in the tire: usually firmer sidewall and softer compound on the higher speed tire. That could equate to firmer ride, worse tread wear, and better handling. BUT these are just generalities and it’s tough to say how much this might be true for the particular tire you chose. I suspect that if I told you the H tire might get better wear and provide a smoother ride you would have chosen that one over the prospect of improved handling for a minivan though.

Thanks. I think that makes sense.

As far as my current dilemma goes, which of these tires would you get in my spot? Would you care?

If both the V and the H were the same price. I think going with the H could be at most a slightly better choice - mainly for the arguable reason that they could last slightly longer. But Vs would be perfectly fine for a heavier vehicle or not wanting to compromise braking or when driving in poor weather conditions. But it really is splitting hairs. Those classes are overrated in their differences, imo.

I’d say braking in rain is my #1 priority.

I wouldnt think too much of it. H is standard for your vehicle. V might give you an ever so slightly stickier feel that you might like.

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