wirelessgrinder voted yes and is on team abolish, several of the other abolishistas who were posting in the thread simply ignored the poll because they didn’t want to answer the question. microbet is in favor of actually abolishing the police, ask him. So is ggoreo. There was an NYT article explaining that, no, abolitionists really do mean ABOLISH THE POLICE.
This has also been done to death but if your slogan polls at sub 50% of politically educated people even understanding what the hell you mean, your slogan sucks. What you’re arguing is that “abolish the police” means something completely different to “abolish ICE” and that we’re dumbasses if this is not obvious to us. In reality, as I said, the slogan functions as a way to elide the distinctions between activists and make it look like there’s a coherent idea of what to do when there isn’t.
Which, like “abolish ICE”, meant “permanently get rid of”, not “come up with a better way to do slavery”. See also: “abolish the death penalty”, “abolish the monarchy”, “abolish apartheid”, every other time the word “abolish” has ever been used in human history.
Words you’re looking for include “replace” and “disband”. I’m not trying to be a semantic nit here, this is the means by which utopians are attempting to co-opt the movement.