Wind solar and battery, interconnecters everywhere and electrify everything. Pumped hydro in locations where it stacks up. This is a solved problem.
Re “that’s how technology works” is right there, why smart people spend money on hydrogen and CCS. Not everything gets better. Some things are better than others. Some problems can’t be solved
All the heuristics are wrong. We see iPhones going from 1 to 13 and think all technology follows similar curves.
Taking green electricity and turnings into hydrogen to then turning it back into something useful is always going to be worse than just using the green elec in the first place. Doesn’t matter the learning curves.
CCS has lost the battle to solar and wind and battery, and it’s not even close.
That’s the thing, we don’t know. People are assuming they at least tried to correct the error, but we don’t actually know whether a given pollster: 1. Tried to correct the error or 2. Did so successfully.
AFAIK the methodologies of most pollsters are not public. But I haven’t studied the issue so maybe in some cases the corrected methodology is laid out by the pollster?
Of course not, I’m just saying that it’s not surprising that fossil fuel companies like a model where they get to have their cake and eat it too by both harvesting ongoing short term profits in their fossil fuels business while claiming the mantle of savior by developing alternatives. I don’t see that as a conspiracy, they’re pretty damned transparent that the alternative (massive immediate regulatory curtailment of fossil fuel production) is both impractical and there isn’t enough social capital to do that (people are not even willing to slow down the rate of their personal energy consumption growth, let alone reduce it). The energy industry in Canada, for example, isn’t wrong that they only path forward is to allow them to keep on keeping on and invest in R&D for alternatives. The public wouldn’t accept any other solution.
R&D isn’t going to solve this. It’s a straight binary choice. Almost total ramp down of FF or catastrophic climate change. Those are the only two options
There is no cavalry coming over the hill.
It’s vital that we focus on framing this debate properly.
I think you’re being intentionally obtuse. What these people want is laid out pretty clearly in that link.
”We’re doing the most expensive, least applicable thing first rather than cheapest easiest things first at great expense to taxpayers and with no analysis of net climate benefit.”
They’re arguing that CCS project money can be much better spent right now on technologies we know work much better, much cheaper.
And if Trump wins this election, this will be their explanation in 2028 when they declare themselves the winner again. “Obviously there’s massive fraud on a scale no one’s ever seen before, so we win”. They’ve already got rank-n-file cops on their side. They’ve got the MAGA gun nuts with AR-15’s on their side. All they need now is the military, and if they get them too, then who’s going to stop them? The Supreme Court? Ha.
I haven’t read or heard anything else but the snip posted here, but I have a feeling ol’ Joe is going to come around to Trump being the clear and obvious choice for God King 2024.
Voted in New York City this morning after a thirty minute wait. One of the perks of voting early is that my polling place is the Metropolitan Museum of Art instead of the middle school where I normally vote.