How many seats is your venue?
You canāt be serious thinking that. Spend some time in QA and software support and you will find out most coders canāt write anything that holds up. It is a small percentage that writes and fixes the product and the rest just produces volume that is good enough after someone elses fixes the edge cases.
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Do you think we donāt support our own software? Maybe itās different at huge shops, but Iāve always been pretty connected to customer support. And we had QA embedded with us on projects, so we always got instant feedback.
Like I said, writing code that seems to work but is buggy or hard to maintain does come out eventually. Maybe you can sneak by for a six months or a year, but eventually when someone always has to fix your code, you donāt advance. At least anywhere Iāve worked.
Really your senior devs should be catching that stuff before junior devs check it in. If they arenāt, youāve got shitty senior devs.
When I start at a new place, I know who the top devs are within a few days. Itās pretty obvious. Try determining who the top managers are in a matter of days.
Those āsmall percentage that writes and fixes the productā in your world, do they get taken care of? If so it seems like the meritocracy is working at least on that.
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How do you square meritocracy with the ageism in the industry? Or are you saying the ageism doesnāt exist?
Itās a meritocracy once you get hired (not always, for the most part, yadda yadda). Getting hired is anything but.
They think code quizzes make hiring a meritocracy. But thatās such a small % of what makes a good senior developer.
In my current company they get taken care off but I think you overestimate how many code is even written in house and how much is written by one of the many āconsultingā companies where it only needs to work until the manintenance runs out and where volume pays better than quality.
Yeah consulting companies is a whole different ballgame. Being a warm body is all that matters. I have to work with Salesforce contractors who I swear have had nothing more than a two week crash course.
Weāve actually got a great contractor right now (just two devs, but theyāre really good), and I constantly let my boss know to hold on to them for dear life. I was shocked at how good the app we gave them came out. I was sure I was going to have to clean up a gigantic mess. Which is basically my point about the meritocracy.
There are a lot of ways to produce software and what holds true in one shop may not hold true in other shops. Size probably also plays a huge role this as well. It is easier to keep track of a couple dozen devs than a couple hundred.
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I agree but that is why I think saying coding is a meritocracy is just as wrong as saying it for any other job.
If Suzzer was 5ā6ā he would not of made it as a coder
Thatās kind of a big asterisk weāre adding to the ācoding is a meritocracyā statement.
The original context was having a successful career as a programmer.
Hard to be successful if you canāt get hired.
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Coding is substantially more meritocratic than most other jobs. Far from perfect, but still much better than other industries.
smerconish is a grade-a dipshit
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Sorry for posting the dumb Figen account, but I thought this was funny:
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Nick Crowley continues to make the most intriguing content in the real life horror space. The second story in the below video Iāve somehow never heard of, but would have to be up there with one of the most horrific things I could imagine being a part of.
