Peter Attia, not Huberman.
He said he doesnāt fast any more and mentioned something about the benefits possibly not being worth it.
He admitted to drinking some on a recent podcast. Not sure where the raging alcoholic thing is coming from.
I guess I just donāt even understand the need for ācutting edge info on health and exerciseā Like I get it for the maybe 1% of the fitnessbro population, but for middle aged dudes, nahh, the science is already out there. Whatever āBrand New Cutting Edge Science Program to Increase Your Fitness Edgeāis most likely grifter material.
Edit: I have actually never listened to this guy.
And also people in social media make it sound 100% credible that juice cleans will clear your gut biome
Or intermittent fasting will have all sorts of amazing benefits
Or dunking yourself in cold water will be the best improvement to your life.
I just canāt imagine taking any of these people seriously without years, decades of hard proof.
So Iām not sure why youād trust THAT GUY out of the tens of thousands or whatever people to trust your health with. Sure the Covid skeptic has in mind whatās best for you
Maybe not an alcoholic, but does drink despite the āscienceā and also admitted to being prone to fits of rage.something Huberman was also characterized as being.
It appears this field of influencer attracts a type.
Itās hard to tell what fits of rage mean in the context he mentions it. I mean weāve all blown our tops. I donāt think heās talking about anything that could send him to jail.
Never being able to have a drink is a shittier life outcome for a lot of people, regardless of the health detriment.
This is the first episode I listened to and what pulled me in.
Sapolsky is a renowned neuroscientist. I got a lot of good takeaways from this about the effects of stress on long term health, and it was just really interesting.
Hereās a podcast where he did a deep dive into the guy who started the whole āvaccines cause autismā claim (full debunking obviously).
Some really interesting stuff in this one from a guy whoās a gym bro but also has a PHD and certainly seems to know his shit. Yeah Iām a middle-aged non-peak-performing guy at the gym. But it still helps to have an idea of the right approach vs. the wrong approach, and also itās super motivating to hear how much building muscle contributes to your long term health.
Thereās a couple dozen more episodes that I got a lot out of. Not all of them are bangers, and lately it seems like most arenāt. But the good ones are really good.
Thatās 7 hours of videos. I guess could you summarize what is so groundbreaking in that 7 hours that wasnāt already common knowledge before this guy figured out a whole bunch of stuff before the rest of the scientific community?
No one cares that you listen to this guy. On the podcast grifter scale he seems relatively harmless tbh. The problem is that you are trying to sell him based on:
Which seems not fully rooted in reality imo. A 5 minute google search turns up all kinds of problematic things. The guy is a podcast grifter though so what should we expect. If you are entertained by it or get useful information out of it honestly more power to you. I listened to Rogan 8 years ago or whatever and have listened to other problematic podcasters Iām sure at times so Iām not trying to slam you for listening to it. Iām just saying he has some kind of shitty and wacky ideas to be someone you base important life choices on.
Iām not going to put together a sales pitch, just pointing a few examples of how I got more out of the podcast than just gym bro stuff.
Itās not that heās figuring stuff out before the scientific community, heās literally talking to the scientists on the cutting edge who are figuring the stuff out. Iām sure if you wanted to subscribe to all the latest journals and stay up on all the latest findings, you could get the same info.
80% of the podcast is just him asking his guests, who again are top scientists in their fields, tons of questions. But really good questions, and in a deep-dive format where you can actually pick up nuance and complexity. And not coming from a dipshit like Rogan who doesnāt have a clue how science works. If you listen to 10 minutes of the Sapolsky podcast youāll understand what Iām talking about (maybe skip past the introductions).
He might mention his crazy fasting or whatever, but thatās not the thrust of the podcast, and not what I get out of it.
Well now youāre just leaving me hanging, either I have to listen to this guy talk for 7 hours or subscribe to the ālatest journalsā. Damn Iām getting some real fomo here.
Edit: I misread Iāll listen to the Sapolsky podcast
Edit 2: The self flagellation is just so so difficult to get past.
So apparently a lot of bodily functions shut down in response to being in high stress.
WTF does this have to do with your workouts?
This feels like some sort of weird attempt to science away the fact your workouts are not as effective as you hoped.
Iāve already said I sometimes watch his videos and have gleaned insights from them. And my offhand post wasnāt meant as a character assassination. Heās not perfect. Iām not perfect. Youāre not perfect. Itās all OK.
Just a flippant comment that the longevity influencers seem to all be a certain type of character. Didnāt mean to start a long thread about it.
Tapping out now. Sorry for any confusion.
I have about 40 podcasts in my feed, youāre missing out. You could do Revolutions, the Noah Smith Podcast, Chris Hayes, Decoding the Gurus, Know Your Enemy, Knowledge Fight, Ezra Klein, Historiansplaining, Iron Culture for exercise, etc. The last episode of Robinson Erhardtās podcast had Daniel Dennett, Sean Carroll, and Steven Pinker all on together, Robinson Erhardt. Stuff with Brad Schoenfeld for science-informed exercise/weightlifting. Also, Stronger By Science.
There are a lot of good podcasts, some on quite niche topics like Babalonian history.
Get some exercise, do other stuff in moderation. There, thatās the current state of the art. Also, try to get 7+ hours of sleep. If you want big muscles and donāt care about your health, do steroids or testosterone replacement.
Sapolsky is pretty good, but he has some controversial views that are addressed a bit in episode 200 (Dennett, Pinker, Carroll) of Robinsonās Podcast I mentioned.
Almost all longevity people seem to have psychological issues. Some are grifters, some are messed up. They need to get over themselves. I find it amusing when they perish from their methods, like from diseases from blood transfusions.
Definitely not. Sheās quite left-leaning.
Aw shit.
I donāt always go 16/8 (sometimes more 14/10) but I still do it. To be fair, most of that fasting window is sleeping. Basically, I just donāt eat breakfast in the morning but still.
Dammit.
Sorry, itās been nice knowing you though.
(I have the oppo. I munch constantly throughout the day. Prolly not the best idea either.