# 2024 LC Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & News\ **Created:** [November 9, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635 "2023-11-09T14:33:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 477
**Author:** ![microbet](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/microbet/32/108_2.png) [@microbet](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/microbet)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9874 "2024-12-29T16:52:33Z")
> [@LFS](#): > > I’m somewhat torn, because in an emergency I want my kid to have his phone. When we were kids, the schools had phones and you could contact kids and vice versa through the office. It worked fine. ---
**Author:** ![clovis8](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/clovis8/32/1067_2.png) [@clovis8](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/clovis8)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9875 "2024-12-29T16:53:49Z")
Not sure. I agree it makes marginal more sense if there is a special being recorded as this could incentivize people who otherwise wouldn’t record to try doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Melkerson](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Melkerson](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Melkerson)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9876 "2024-12-29T16:54:09Z")
> [@microbet](#): > > > [@LFS](#): > > > > I’m somewhat torn, because in an emergency I want my kid to have his phone. > > When we were kids, the schools had phones and you could contact kids and vice versa through the office. It worked fine. I agree with this. Having said that, if someone is shooting up the school, then that is not gonna work. ---
**Author:** ![LFS](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/lfs/32/128512_2.png) [@LFS](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/LFS)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:54pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9877 "2024-12-29T16:54:17Z")
> [@microbet](#): > > > [@LFS](#): > > > > I’m somewhat torn, because in an emergency I want my kid to have his phone. > > When we were kids, the schools had phones and you could contact kids and vice versa through the office. It worked fine. When we were kids our parents didn’t have to worry that the people in the front office with the phone would be sheltering in place under their desks. my pony was sheltering in place ---
**Author:** ![FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/funcrusherplus/32/249765_2.png) [@FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/FuncrusherPlus)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 4:56pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9878 "2024-12-29T16:56:24Z")
Old cellphones could easily be repurposed for emergency use only. ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9879 "2024-12-29T17:03:57Z")
I get why they are protective. Their act is their currency. They tour it and then potentially end up releasing a special finally burning that content forever. If it gets leaked online before that process is finished it can cost them a lot of time and money. ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:09pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9880 "2024-12-29T17:09:16Z")
Musicians often play their hits. They are just replaying stuff you have likely already heard. Comedians, many of them at least, are trying to present a fresh hour to their audience. They tour on it for a year or more than release it as a special. They are protective over people hearing it besides in FHAs context they release it. When most comedians release a special that content is dead forever, they never tour it again. ---
**Author:** ![FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/funcrusherplus/32/249765_2.png) [@FuncrusherPlus](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/FuncrusherPlus)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9881 "2024-12-29T17:18:46Z")
Cellphones are as powerful as guns. The pen to the sword. ---
**Author:** ![Bigoldnit](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/bigoldnit/32/18789_2.png) [@Bigoldnit](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Bigoldnit)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9882 "2024-12-29T17:47:05Z")
I think the protecting material issue is real. Also, I’ve read some interviews with the founder as well as some artists that have used them at their shows where they talked about how they feel like the audience is better/more engaged without cellphones. In an ideal world, everyone would be able to control themselves and generally stay off their phones (or, put another way, every performance would be so compelling that we’d never think to look at our phones), but so many people are addicted to their phones that maybe the extra will power is necessary. And as far as the piracy thing, there’s obviously ways to circumvent the pouches if someone really wants to, but I bet most of the people recording shows aren’t recording for some intentional/commercial reason. They’re just regular folks who are used to documenting everything for the gram (or the tok) and aren’t really thinking about whether the comedian wants their A/B testing of new jokes to be potentially seen by millions of people. I’m not sure that those are good enough reasons to annoy your fans/customers, but I can at least see why some artists and venues are trying it out. Oh, and the company was founded in 2014 and it’s still around, so I guess they have some happy customers (or it at least has a decent sales pitch to school boards). > **[Schools in 41 states have spent millions on pouches to lock up kids' phones](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/gadgets/yondr-phone-pouch-lock-school-rcna128247)** > > Yondr has found a booming business in contracts with American schools. ---
**Author:** ![wiper](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/wiper/32/197642_2.png) [@wiper](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/wiper)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9883 "2024-12-29T17:51:44Z")
yep, last 2 summers ---
**Author:** ![otatop](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/otatop/32/196269_2.png) [@otatop](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/otatop)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9884 "2024-12-29T17:53:06Z")
> [@clovis8](#): > > So far nobody has provided an explanation that prevents me from simply using my watch or just bringing a second phone or other recording device. JimHammer did and you dismissed it > [@JimHammer](#): > > Kinda like how gun laws only harm responsible gun owners. They know they can’t stop people determined to record but most people aren’t rolling around with a backup phone to get around the pouches so they can at least stop people who would just randomly decide to record. ---
**Author:** ![Melkerson](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Melkerson](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Melkerson)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9885 "2024-12-29T17:57:48Z")
This seems a bit different than what they’re doing at the performances: > [@](#): > > In the San Mateo-Foster City district, as at many other schools and music venues, the locking mechanism is kept near the school’s entryway, allowing students to tap their pouches on the way in — and keep their phones on them even as the phones are locked up. Sounds like pouch locking is on the honor system. Young Melk would just fake tap in every morning. But I assume it must be helping at least a little. ---
**Author:** ![Bigoldnit](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/bigoldnit/32/18789_2.png) [@Bigoldnit](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Bigoldnit)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:05pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9886 "2024-12-29T18:05:31Z")
Maybe. I’ve only encountered them a few times, so I don’t recall how easy it would be to fake tap if someone was watching when the kids come in. Again, I’m sure there are ways around it if someone tries (and creative kids are almost always better at circumventing rules than adults are at enforcing them), but I imagine the schools are just happy if most kids follow the rules and it cuts down on the amount of texting/social media use in the classroom. And it gives the school more justification to punish kids that violate the no cellphone policy b/c the kid can’tclaim to know cellphone use wasn’t allowed if they’ve had to stand in line to lock up their phone every day. ---
**Author:** ![Superleeds](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/superleeds/32/1216_2.png) [@Superleeds](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Superleeds)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9887 "2024-12-29T18:41:48Z")
This isn’t true. I’m a big fan but Eddie Izzard has used the same material over and over again at least as filler for the last 20 years ---
**Author:** ![d10](https://unstuckpolitics.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/b77776/32.png) [@d10](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/d10)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 6:52pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9888 "2024-12-29T18:52:57Z")
> [@clovis8](#): > > I just found an audio recording of her show on torrents. Took me 30 seconds. Sounds like it’s working. I like Sarah Silverman enough I’ll watch some clips if there’s some reasonable quality audio+video on YouTube, probably even an hour long professionally recorded and edited special whenever it pops up on the Netflix home screen. I am never searching torrents for an audio only bootleg. So at least in my case their policy is effective, and I suspect I’m a fairly typical consumer of Sarah Silverman content. If I was going to watch a live performance I’d also appreciate not having the distraction of 100 phone screens held in the air in the rows ahead of me. So mark that down as another win. The process for locking the phones sounds like a pain in the ass, sure. But do you have any ideas for a better method to accomplish these goals? I’m doubtful that simply telling everyone “no phones, please” will work. I’ve seen that attempted at weddings and there are always a few assholes who insist on getting their own potato quality photos. ---
**Author:** ![suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/suzzer99/32/132432_2.png) [@suzzer99](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/suzzer99)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 7:17pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9889 "2024-12-29T19:17:21Z")
First, they put the cell phones in pouches, and I said nothing… ---
**Author:** ![Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/marksman/32/128_2.png) [@Marksman](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/Marksman)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 7:24pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9890 "2024-12-29T19:24:17Z")
I was pretty careful to not say all comedians. Some comedians tour on the same material for decades. But many of the big touring comedians do try to protect their content for the special life cycle. I know other exceptions as well. Jay Leno has used the same act forever. Bobby Lee has never had a special until this year and has done a lot of the same material. But for those acts who have been in the forefront of using these bags, most of them do want to protect their content. ---
**Author:** ![NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/notbrucez/32/151673_2.png) [@NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/NotBruceZ)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 8:06pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9891 "2024-12-29T20:06:02Z")
Some musicians, like Bob Dylan and Madonna, are equally sensitive about phones. It’s not crazy for performers to prefer their fans pay attention and not be on social media during a concert. ---
**Author:** ![NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/notbrucez/32/151673_2.png) [@NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/NotBruceZ)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9892 "2024-12-29T20:07:05Z")
I would simply not go to a concert where I needed to use my phone to get through it. ---
**Author:** ![NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/user_avatar/unstuckpolitics.com/notbrucez/32/151673_2.png) [@NotBruceZ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/u/NotBruceZ)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635/9893 "2024-12-29T20:13:11Z")
Someone should come up with a phone app that just shuts down your phone for three hours with no ability to delete it until the period is over. Allow emergency calls to go out. Option to ban photos or videos. [Previous page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635.md?page=476) [Next page](https://unstuckpolitics.com/t/2024-lc-thread/10635.md?page=478)