I do think Trump has a bit of a knack for making people reach beyond traditional electoral fundamentals like economy and direction of country, but he definitely got an extra boost from the current economic situation that he didn’t get in 16 or 20.
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God I hope the leopards are hungry the next 4 years.
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This!!!
A week before the election Harris gave the speech of her life to 70,000(?) people, and that was almost completely negated by the President calling Trump-supporters “garbage.”
In my opinion, vitriol should be limited to the candidates, not their supporters.
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The forum split is a disservice to society. Together, they could be a tool to make real change in the evolving hellscape.
You hold a ton of sway in what happens. I hope you will consider that.
My guess is that as a party they turn against the progressive wing even more than they have in the past, and they will try to silence “controversial” topics like support for Palestine, immigration, or trans rights. They will seek out party leadership that is more like Mitt Romney and less like AOC. I am not suggesting that it will “work” on any level, but I just do not see the centrist Dem base deciding that this loss is a problem with what they are doing.
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As much as I love to bask in the schadenfreude of a Trump voter being victimized by a Trump policy, for every 1 person that deserves it, another 9 who don’t get screwed. It doesn’t mean I’m gonna stop laughing at Trumpers when they get their faces eaten tho.
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Not sure about this. Remember “Operation Warp Speed?”
The direction of the dem party will be mostly reactive to what Trump does in the next 18 months. The vibe will be anti-Trump again. It worked in 2018, it’s got a shot again. People are about to remember why they rejected Trump in 2020.
I see the next few years going down 1 of 3 ways:
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Trump and co do basically fuck all nothing and hope to maintain power through pure inertia and natural economic cycles that favor them.
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Trump and co start doing unpopular shit and pay a price from swing voters.
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Trump and co start doing unpopular shit, some of which includes election riggage ensuring they don’t pay the price. This is really the path we need to steer them away from. It HAS to be.
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Yes the only saving grace here is that hopefully this speeds up the massive systemic change that will be needed for whatever form the next opposition party takes. Hope they leave the decision making to the people who were able to recognize the messaging issues before the curb stomping went down. There were many of us! Love Pete but don’t think he’s gonna be the answer for '28.
I’m young and naive enough to not give up but can’t blame anyone for tuning out for a bit. Just try to remember there are so many vulnerable groups right now who are going to need our support now more than ever. Just totally turning our backs on them at this point seems pretty not cool.
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Everyone take a breath and stop by Sesame Street.
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I mean, it could be a conspiracy against progressives, or it could be that progressive stuff just isn’t popular in a country that wants fascism. But it’s probably a conspiracy.
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Yeah Trump is only anti-vax in the sense that he realizes that’s where his voters are and he’s latching on. He doesn’t actually give a fuck about vax policy other than he can tell it’s probably a winning issue for him. If they push the anti-vax policies hard, hopefully some dem pacs can run ads of kids dying of measles next election.
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Yeah but how? They have a trifecta now
So did the dems but there was enough internal resistance to prevent them from really exercising it. The GOP is far from a super majority, they may not even take the house or if they do might not hold it too long, and their moderate members, of which there are a few, might put a halt to some of the project 2025, either out of principal or self preservation. I know I know, SSC stuff, but we aren’t drawing dead to 2 years of mostly GOP deadlock followed by a blue wave in 2026.
what does that even mean? nobody watching her speech wasn’t already voting for her. the election was won/lost on social media shorts. kamala should have been running trump epstein pedophile ads on social media.
why is ned stark still alive?
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Like I said, I am not trying to comment on the electoral or moral value of a tack to the right, I am just saying that I think that is what’s going to happen.
The GOP also isn’t built from the top down to be a hindrance to their own party’s goals like the Dem party is either. They will do whatever they want unopposed, certainly not by their own party.
Not to mention Trump doesn’t need the legislature. He can just do whatever he wants by EO and the SC will rubber stamp it.
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Counterpoint:
John McCain types are dead or ousted by now.
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