Exactly. Half of the country full of Shooter McGavins. Is it any surprise I have no interest in engaging with the public from here on out?
I dropped my son’s gf off at her house on Tuesday after their band practice, and her mom came out, clearly drunk and came to my car. They are Indian immigrants from Fiji and I dont know their full immigration status though I believe they are legal.
“WOOOOOOO, TRUUUUUMP. We are having a party soon to celebrate! You have to come!”
Like, what do I even do there? I smiled politely and told her to send me the details and left. They want us over for Thanskgiving but how do I go and look them in the eyes and smile and laugh? How do I bring my trans son with us? Should I leave him home? Should I go at all? They might be my future in laws for all I know.
God damn, I am just utterly depressed at the state of the world.
Like for people still making the case Obama couldn’t have done more look at this education platform. (Only posting small excerpts because it is long as shit.) Wonder if improving education 15 years ago might have helped the youngs be less idiotic and fascist.
If your latest theory of the case (that we went down this path because it took a year to pass Obamacare) is correct then America was 100% right to elect a strongman leader and they should follow through in helping him continue to remove the guardrails. Trump wouldn’t be my choice of the strongman, but c’est la vie.
In my vision of how democracy should work, it’s perfectly reasonable to take a year to completely change the healthcare system and incorporate feedback the electorate gives you along the way.
There’s plenty of blame to go around. Focusing it entirely on one group is a deflection feeding off of cynical money extraction and exploitation.
The demographic finger pointing is specifically troublesome; before you even get into analytics and leopards, those groups are entitled (even more so) to make the same shitty choices as the white assholes that came before them
My theory of the case is Dems don’t do(in most cases don’t even try) what they run on. Not even close. People don’t like Dems for this and so their coalition is falling apart and people are so disallusioned they aren’t even voting anymore.
There is a lot of evidence this is happening in my opinion. People just don’t trust Democrats at this stage nor should they.
I know you have to realize social media presence is heavily manipulated at this point, but wow even I’m surprised at the volume and quantity of Gen Z male victimhood threads I’m seeing on Reddit this morning. Basically fist-pumping themselves at handing the election to Trump with very little pushback.
We are very far gone with this group. Definitely feel addressing this needs to be a top priority going forward but its going to be a steep uphill battle.
Im rooting for the leopards now. Go motherfuckers, feast on as many faces as you can manage.
Democrats may end up turning things around by 2028, but it wont be much their doing. They will be the leaders of a party of people without faces at that point.
I think it’s worth remembering that crafting duplicitous rhetoric to gain popular support for their regressive unpopular policies has been one of the main focuses on the right since the Civil War. They have had literally generations to work on messaging and have built literal institutions devoted to the project that have had essentially unlimited funding from various hyper-wealthy people virtually the whole time. All those institutions have contributed to pushing Trump to victory.
100% I agree. Whose fault is it that there is no effective messaging like this on the left? That’s a huge part of the problem. The GOP moved on from more traditional ways of drumming up support 40 years ago. When are the Dems going to wake up and find their footing somewhere relevant in 2024? It aint MSNBC or The Daily Show I can tell you that.
Bernie got over 13m votes in 2016. Coming from being an unknown with no funding. People were STARVED for more authentic leftism. What did the Dems do? Welcome this new crop of voters into the tent? Nope. Demonized them as Bernie Bros and communists. Now I’m not so sure a lot of those 13m voters haven’t moved on for good.
I don’t think it can work like that for the Dems. I
Mentioned this in another post, but the right’s core constituency is ok with their leadership talking out of both sides of their mouths, and being pragmatic to achieve long-term goals, the left is clearly not so the Dems have to constantly be messaging to the liberal most members of their constituency and any deviation is met with full throated opposition.
The thing is the Dems have been talking out of both sides of their mouth anyways. Which I agree doesn’t work. That’s where I think they have gone wrong. So I guess we agree to some extent.
I don’t know how you fix the messaging problem but I would start with giving Dem voters a better and more open primary system and stop putting their thumb on the scale during these processes. There was a big part of the party in all of 2016, 2020 and 2024 that felt screwed by the way the party handled it.
In 2004, I voted for Bush. When it was clear he lied about WMD and all that, I told myself I would never vote Republican again. In 2008 and 2012, I voted for Obama because I wanted to vote for him. But the last 3 elections have been pretty much voting to keep Trump out of the White House. But it was not because I was excited or had confidence in the Democratic Party. I imagine there are tons of people that felt the same way.
Also, I wonder if sending out 20 texts a day asking for money and not talking about policies or how they were going to help people hurt voter turnout. I was still getting texts Tues AM asking for money.
