2023 LC Thread - It was predetermined that I would change the thread title (Part 1)

IMO if you are going to go through the trouble of showering everyday, you may as well clean your whole body.

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Italy is blessed

WTF rest of Europe

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US full of Protestants. Cleanliness next to godliness and all that.

Euros working from home in their underwear might scratch themselves and wash a bit around lunchtime.

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not bad

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Browsing Yahoo news not only leads to a bunch of cool new animal species articles but also gems like this one

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/man-forced-ditch-115k-ford-234104336.html

Bala told FOX Business he believes the government needs to do more to ā€œprovide consumers with the right information.ā€

ā€œPeople have to make the right choices. I want to tell everybody to read my story,ā€ he said. ā€œDo your research before even thinking about it and make a wiser choice.ā€

"The actual thing they promised is not even close. Not even 50%. And once you buy it, youā€™re stuck with it and you have to carry huge losses to get rid of that. And nobody is there to help you.

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So stupid. No one told me it had limited range!

Eh, I kinda feel for him. But also lol at spending $130K on a truck.

If did long road trips, I would never use an EV. Especially in the cold. I just have way too much natural range anxiety. What happened to him is my exact fear.

But since I hate driving and almost never do them, EV is perfect for my commuting and other errands. So Iā€™ll plan to get one for that as my current ride is dying.

For the rare road trips, we all pile into the gas-guzzling minivan.

I actually donā€™t feel for him because his whole point was ā€œDo your researchā€. The research is out there and it is super easy to find. He just didnā€™t do it.

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I suppose. Hitting two malfunctioning charging stations in a row seems unlucky but maybe thatā€™s known to be common? I havenā€™t done my research.

Well if youā€™re in the market for an EV, hopefully you would.

So two in a row would be ~4%. Unlucky but not crazy. Too much for my taste. Iā€™ve been 2-outered on the river plenty. Also if I had a problem at 20% of the gas stations I attempted to fill up at, I would go on some sort of life rage tilt.

source:

Station reliability is an issue. The incentives in the IRA included uptime requirements so hopefully things improve soon.

That sounds like it says 20% of people had a charging problem over a 3 month time frame, not that 20% of them donā€™t work.

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Media outlets love a good hit piece on EVs, so this will get a ton of play most likely.

If you need your car for more than daily driving/commuting <300 miles, then getting anything other than something with access to the entire Tesla charging network and capable of charging at 250kw or higher is just not gonna work for you.

Road trips or long drives in Tesla are very doable with little or no planning. In other EVs they are doable with planning ahead, but reliability of other charging networks could still screw you.

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This is the first time Iā€™ve heard that charging station arenā€™t universal. Are they physically incompatible, or could Tesla easily modify their stations to accept all EVs if they had the right ā€œincentivesā€?

They are different plug types and electrical systems. Tesla uses. NACS (the one on the right), most other cars uses CCS/J1772 (on the left) or one of a few other dying plug types.

A few manufacturers have announced they will change to NACS to gain access to the Tesla network. And there are a handful of Tesla MagicDock superchargers now that have built in adapters for CCS cars, but only like 10 stations total in CA and NY.

As for compatability, you can go from a J1772 to Tesla for a slow charge (about 40mph on a home charger), or a CCS to Tesla for a bit faster but requires a more expensive adapter. Going the other way you can do a Tesla destination or house charger to a J1772, but canā€™t use the super charger network with any adapters. For eventual super charger access, the other cars will need to be able to charge at 250kw or higher for the new stations, which some cars are not capable of.

And as far as ease of use, at a Tesla super charger you pull up plug in and it starts charging, and youā€™re on your way quickly. No payment or account needed as its charged directly to your cars account. At other networks you need to pay at the station or set up 3rd party accounts, and that is a pain point and technical issue point for a lot of people.

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Thatā€™s 20% of drivers experiencing the issue in the first three months of the year, not 20% of charging attempts.

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I thought the Japanese showered twice a day?

And also since the Tesla chargers are designed to charge, you know, Teslas, it can be a bit wonky for other cars.


This is the only stall at the MagicDock location near me where a CCS car can charge without taking up 2 chargers.

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Yea that is certainly going to be an issue as the Tesla network opens up to more car manufacturers. The cables are short and are designed to reach the back left corner of a Tesla. Other manufacturers are going to have to conform their charge port location to either the same or the front middle/front right.

Yeah, thatā€™s correct. I overstated it a bit based on that source. The point is that itā€™s not a shock if you go to a charging station and canā€™t charge for some reason.

Hereā€™s another article that states it a bit differently, same underlying source. I guess I should probably read the primary source at some point.